Michele Bachmann denies benefiting from government aid

latimes.com ^ | June 26, 2011 | Richard A. Serrano

[Berlin_Freeper]

...Bachmann and her staff declined to talk to about the government assistance for the L.A. Times article. But asked about the issue on "Fox News Sunday," she insisted that she and her husband had not benefited at the expense of federal and state taxpayers.

"First of all," she said, "the money that went to the clinic was actually training money for employees. The clinic did not get the money. And my husband and I did not get the money either. That's mental health training money that went to employees."

As for the farm, she said it belonged to her father-in-law. "It's not my husband and my farm," Bachmann said. "And my husband and I have never gotten a penny of money from the farm."

As the Los Angeles Times reported on Sunday, however, in financial disclosure forms, Bachmann reported receiving between $32,503 and $105,000 in income from the farm, at minimum, between 2006 and 2009.

[org.whodat]

No, I said if you wish to elect Willard, keep up the attacks. So if you wish to elected Willard keep it up, but Bachmann is the only one running that can take him down and win.

[EDINVA]

“...when MSM/Dems/Romney’s bottom feeding dumpster divers get a look at how long those 23 foster children she “raised” actually stayed with her.”

Just like the bottom feeders here at FR lately, not to mention any names, of course.

Just FYI, Bachmann never said she “raised” 23 foster children. That was another ‘journOlist” claim and purposeful misinterpretation of what she said. The transcript shows very clearly that she said they brought 23 foster children into their home. She never claimed to “raise” them. They were all teenagers at the time the Bachmanns “brought them into their home.”

Of course this will become the MSM/bottom-feeder meme, like “I can see Russia from my porch.” All BS, but, hey, it serves its purpose of trashing a perceived political enemy and that’s all that counts. So good to see FReepers doing the work of the MSM.

[FreeReign]

Please point to the post where Rollins is quoted as saying Palin did something illegal. Thanks in advance. On this very thread it was charged that Bachmann misappropriated Congressional funds.

There are all types of cheap remarks. The Bachmann campaign, on a LSM outlet, reinforcing a LSM stereotype, made a cheap shot about Palin's intelligence. That's a cheap shot.

If there was a poster claiming Bachmann did something illegal without offering proof, then that would be a cheap shot too.

[FreeReign]

Bachmann is the only one running that can take him down and win.

That's your opinion. I don't share it.

[gov_bean_ counter]

Well, she has. Today I think on CBS in fact. And she said it to Wolf Blitzer.

[FreeReign]

No, I said if you wish to elect Willard, keep up the attacks.

I should add, keep up your attacks on Palin and we will get Willard.

[FreeReign]

Just FYI, Bachmann never said she “raised” 23 foster children.

FYI, I've see quotes where she used the word "raised". Are you saying that these quotes are lies?

[factmart]

gov_bean_ counter???

Any Conservative Who doesn't like Palin or Bachman, is no Conservative.

[Still Thinking]

Shouldn’t someone have the wit to decry that subsidies are so omnipresent that they’re usually impossible to avoid and be competitive?

That's analogous to the one thing I DON'T despise John McCain for. A lot of conservatives called him a hypocrite during CFR because he continued to go by the old rules while he was pushing the new ones. I didn't have a problem with that (unlike his CFR itself) because how can you NOT play by the old rules till they're simultaneously changed for everyone?

[DoughtyOne]

Oh I see, so this is about Palin and Bachmann.

You are buttressing the idea that it's perfectly okay to support a man that would do harm to your nation, rather than support a man that would be better.

You need to pay attention.  No, you need to pay attention to what issues you raise, if you don't want to deal with the blow-back.  You tried to slam Hayworth, stating that he couldn't even beat the likes of McCain.  There's a whole lot of garbage that goes along with that statement, and you didn't touch on any of it, did you.  You know damned well Palin announced for McCain, campaigned for him, and interceded on behalf of him with the Tea Party.  So was it just Hayworth that ran a bad campaign, or was it that Palin and many RINO Republicans backed McCain over Hayworth?  It was the latter and you damned well know it.

Cite one instance where I supported Palin campaigning for McCain.   By trashing Hayworth for not being able to win of the likes of McCain, you forgot to mention Palin's actions connected to this election.  You can't make one comment, then get excited when someone brings up a major player and issue that you didn't.   Don't come to me trashing a Conservative for not being able to get elected, when you know damn well one of the major reasons he couldn't.

You can't. Because I, as well as most Palin supporters, can't stand McCain and didn't like Palin's support of him. Now, you tell me... should we abandon candidates who *gasp* support a RINO? Because is so, there isn't ONE out there today who should be supported- and that includes Michele Bachmann who endorsed McCain/Palin.  McCain is not just a RINO.  McCain is a Soros, Kennedy, Kerry, Tides Foundation, Leftist agenda introducing and passing anti-Conservative card-carrying Leftist RINO.  As for Bachmann endorsing the ticket in 2008, that's a far cry from supporting a single man who has spent the last thirty years with his fingers dipped in s--t in Washington, D. C.  What's more, you damn well know this.

And before you do the 'it was either them or Obama' stuff, go read your own words about going against everything that you believe.  If you've got something to say Ace, say it.

Please enlighten us what J. D. Hayworth was charged with and convicted of. There was a lot of inuendo about what he had done, but he was not charged or convicted of anything.

And please enlighten us as to WHERE I said he was? Since when is baggage a conviction? Wow. Stretch much?  You're an ass.  You tossed out that baggage comment to make it sound as if Hayworth had done something either illegal, an offense of Congressional rules, or of such significance that he didn't deserve to be elected back to public office.  You just didn't want to get called on it.  Well, I'm calling you on it.  What did J. D. Hayworth do that reaches the level of John McCain's whole thirty years Congressional and Senate activity on behalf of Leftist ideology?

That propagandist ploy didn't fly over my head, and I'm calling you on it.

For me it's not whether she actually got him re-elected so much as that she actually went out and worked to get him re-elected. This man was a fellow traveler of Soros, Kennedy, Kerry, and some of the worst Leftist groups this nation has ever seen. If she's willing to back a Soros fellow traveler, what else is she willing to do?

That is your idea of a dyed in the wool Conservative? Really?

About all anyone has to do these days, is claim that someone did them a favor, and then it's okay for them to back anyone they want for election. And then good Conservatives can pat them on the back and give them a pass. Is that about it?

See point one. Again, give me the name of ONE CONSERVATIVE who has never endorsed a RINO. How many Conservatives were backing McCain in 2010?  How about you naming them?  I know of only one.

In your heart you know better than this.

You don't know me or my heart. In fact, however sincere your claim, it's kinda creepy.  You post this tripe against Hayworth and defending supporting McCain, but in your mind I'm the creepy one?

Now it's time to destroy Bachmann's credibility just as some hacks did with J. D. Hayworth.

Oh really. Seems to me Haworth's cred was shot when he couldn't win re-election to his own seat.  Once again, who came to Arizona compaigned against him?  Oh that's right, it was Sarah Palin.

As for Michele, I trust she can take care of herself. Though she has slid down my list with questionable choices as of late, I'd still vote for her.

But I find it so rich you're getting your panties in a twist because a 'good conservative' like Bachmann is being vetted, yet, you join the ranks of PDSers when it comes to Palin.  You tried to score points based on my comment about what you know to be right in your heart, and you respond that was rather creepy.  Then you talk about my underwear.  In fact you even describe me as getting my panties in a twist.  I'm trying to understand you envisioning that scene in a good way.  So far, I'm not having any success.  Are you sure you're on the right forum.  Perhaps you ment to sign in to, "I like to think about your twisted panties dot.com"

Bachmann is not being vetted here.  She is being hit with preposterous charges completely made up for the most part.  Asking questions about conflicting information is reasoned.  Making stuff up isn't.

I have news for you. Palin is not perfect. And neither is Bachmann.

I never said Bachmann was.  I never even said she is my first choice either.  I have said that I like her among others, and will continue to check her out over time.  I still don't like the hit squad antics on this thread, and I'm going to defend her from that type of nonsense.

[DoughtyOne]

Still waiting for your list of Conservatives that backed McCain for re-election in 2010. I know it will take a while since there were so many...

[DoughtyOne]

a shot at intelligence vs a shot about illegality

I don’t care for either, but to say these are two of the same types of things isn’t true.

[rintense]

Why does that matter? You’ve set the standard that anyone who endorses a RINO betrays conservatism. Still waiting on you to give me the name of a conservative who has never endorsed a RINO.

[DoughtyOne]

There’s one person on my list considered to be a Conservative that backed McCain for re-election in 2010. One!

Am I wrong on that? If you don’t think it’s worth your time, I understand.

I don’t think it’s that unfair of an issue to raise though.

BTW, please tell me what other Republicans you consider to be on a par with John McCain, someone that has cozened up with George Soros et al.

A number of people on that list of yours weren’t too good, but I have yet to see anyone on that list who comes even close to being as disgusting as McCain. Not even close...

[FreeReign]

There are all types of cheap remarks. The Bachmann campaign, on a LSM outlet, reinforcing a LSM stereotype, made a cheap shot about Palin's intelligence. If there was a poster claiming Bachmann did something illegal without offering proof, then that would be a cheap shot too.

a shot at intelligence vs a shot about illegality I don’t care for either, but to say these are two of the same types of things isn’t true.

All things being equal, I would agree. But there are other parameters involved, that are not equal.

To say that a cheap shot, on a LSM outlet, reinforcing a LSM stereotype, by a professional campaign, is the same thing as cheap shot, on a bulletin board, by an individual poster, isn't true.

I would also add that I'm not familiar with the Bachmann-misappropriated-funds topic, so I can't give my opinion on it.

[rintense]

No, you need to pay attention to what issues you raise, if you don't want to deal with the blow-back. You tried to slam Hayworth, stating that he couldn't even beat the likes of McCain. There's a whole lot of garbage that goes along with that statement, and you didn't touch on any of it, did you. You know damned well Palin announced for McCain, campaigned for him, and interceded on behalf of him with the Tea Party. So was it just Hayworth that ran a bad campaign, or was it that Palin and many RINO Republicans backed McCain over Hayworth? It was the latter and you damned well know it.

Sorry, honey, you can't face the fact Hayworth lost the election on his own. Plain and simple. If Hayworth was so great, why didn't the Tea Party support him? Oh, I forget. You give Palin credit for making sure the Tea Party didn't. Show me the proof Palin interceded on McCain's behalf with the Tea Party. As far as the garbage, you'd best go back and check the posts because you will see that *I* (as well as most Palin supporters) supported Hayworth. As far as your silly, hysterical whine about 'implying' more about Hayworth's loss, give me a break.

The man LOST because of his own campaign failures and the record that got him voted out of his previous seat.

By trashing Hayworth for not being able to win of the likes of McCain, you forgot to mention Palin's actions connected to this election. You can't make one comment, then get excited when someone brings up a major player and issue that you didn't. Don't come to me trashing a Conservative for not being able to get elected, when you know damn well one of the major reasons he couldn't.

So Sarah Palin controls the masses in Arizona. Gotcha. Hayworth's own ineffectual campaign had little to do with it. My God, I feel sorry for you that you actual BLAME Sarah Palin for Hayworth losing. Not even he does.

McCain is not just a RINO. McCain is a Soros, Kennedy, Kerry, Tides Foundation, Leftist agenda introducing and passing anti-Conservative card-carrying Leftist RINO. As for Bachmann endorsing the ticket in 2008, that's a far cry from supporting a single man who has spent the last thirty years with his fingers dipped in s--t in Washington, D. C. What's more, you damn well know this.

Aw, is little DO getting mad??? Honey, you're the one who set the standard of betraying conservative values by supporting a RINO. That's across the board, honey. Too bad you seem willing to make exceptions when it justifies YOUR definition, huh.

If you've got something to say Ace, say it.

You already said it, Sparky, by defining YOUR conservatism.

You're an ass. You tossed out that baggage comment to make it sound as if Hayworth had done something either illegal, an offense of Congressional rules, or of such significance that he didn't deserve to be elected back to public office. You just didn't want to get called on it. Well, I'm calling you on it. What did J. D. Hayworth do that reaches the level of John McCain's whole thirty years Congressional and Senate activity on behalf of Leftist ideology?

Wow you really love to project don't you? I have no damn clue what charges were even leveled at Hayworth. His baggage is HE COULDN'T WIN RE-ELECTION to his OWN SEAT! My God, are you thick.

That propagandist ploy didn't fly over my head, and I'm calling you on it.

What the hell are you pulling out of your rear now? Leftist ploy? Or are you trying to read people's minds again? Or wait, hearts. My bad.

You post this tripe against Hayworth and defending supporting McCain, but in your mind I'm the creepy one?

Tripe? Look at how hysterical you are about an election loss. You should really up the Lithium. Let me be clear again and see if you understand... I did not support Palin's endorsement of McCain. Understanding why she did it is NOT being ok with it. But you fail to grasp that concept. Again, check your meds.

You tried to score points based on my comment about what you know to be right in your heart, and you respond that was rather creepy. Then you talk about my underwear. In fact you even describe me as getting my panties in a twist. I'm trying to understand you envisioning that scene in a good way. So far, I'm not having any success. Are you sure you're on the right forum. Perhaps you ment to sign in to, "I like to think about your twisted panties dot.com"

On the right forum? Care to ask the site owner that question, who has declared this Palin Country? Or is it the fact your poor sensibilities were offended about your panties?

I never said Bachmann was. I never even said she is my first choice either. I have said that I like her among others, and will continue to check her out over time. I still don't like the hit squad antics on this thread, and I'm going to defend her from that type of nonsense.

Yet you were part of the biggest Palin hit squad around and had no problem with that. Funny, you're appointing yourself to a role you condemned others for.

[rintense]

I consider Romney on par, and Huckabee a close second followed by Newt and Huntsman. These men would NEVER get my vote. Never. I learned that lesson in 2008.

Of course, I'm sure this will queue your standard 'They aren't even close to McCain blah blah blah' post. Yeah, we get it, Sparky. You hate McCain. We do too.

[FreeReign]

BTW, please tell me what other Republicans you consider to be on a par with John McCain, someone that has cozened up with George Soros et al.

I'll add my two cents.

Goober Graham is just as bad as McCain. DeMint worked hard for Goober's reelection, in a primary, when there was a non amnesty conservative running against Graham.

I've criticized DeMint for his support of Graham and I've criticized Palin for her support of McCain.

Even still, Palin and DeMint are my top two favorites ahead of Cain and Bachmann.

[rintense]

Agree!

[FreeReign]

MB used to be my second choice. :)