Posted on 06/23/2011 8:15:31 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
Gov. Jerry Brown hinted Thursday that if the budget talks with Republicans break down, the initiative fight that would follow would not be limited to Brown's plans to raise sales, vehicle and income taxes. He said he expects labor groups to pursue changes to Proposition 13, tweaking the current caps on commercial property taxes, if no bipartisan deal can be reached.
"I would expect there will be efforts to accelerate the reassessment of commercial property tax," Brown said.
During his remarks to about 250 apartment owners and developers at the Moscone Center on Thursday, he acknowledged some of his failures in budget talks, particularly over his proposal to eliminate redevelopment agencies. "I wouldn't be ready to write the obituary of redevelopment agencies," he said. "They're very powerful and they're still alive and well despite my best efforts."
(Excerpt) Read more at latimesblogs.latimes.com ...
BRING IT ON!
BRING IT ON!
California is going down the tubes, just a matter of when. The current tax fiasco will just hasten the last productive person to leave. What left then is a heaven for illegal immigrants, queers, freaks, perverts, and eco-nuts. Then they will have exactly what they have desired for years.
If the unions manage to “persuade” Californians to cut their own throat I will be impressed, but not entirely surprised.
California. Good God what a disastah. The sooner the collapse the better.
This is inevitable. And the only thing that will cause the voters of this state to wake the freak up.
Threats, threats that’s all we get from these guys. Not cuts cuts as it should be.
Just noticed that Medi-Cal will accept documented or undocumented people. (they had to say people because they couldn’t say citizens.) This while researching options for my 96 YO Mother. We’ll keep her home - thanks.
Do it Jerry, do it.....This may be just what we need to bring hip and cool liberalism down in California and jolt the conservative movement back to life.
Northern California would still remain a lib haven, but you’d get a good number people to switch.
Here in Southern Califorina it is mostly Conservative outside the lib bastions in LA. The problem is conservatives have been unmotivated here the last 15 or so years. This could jolt them to life and you never know, Maybe we’ll just throw out some of those libs in the Assembly and Senate.
Just my crazy little dream.
I'm thinking of how many times I've thought that. I thought that when they passed the assault rifle ban. I thought that when they outlawed 95% of currently available handguns. I think the majority of voters in kalifornia are genuinely too stupid to see the handwriting on the wall.
I will be sorely ticked off if this happens, and worse if it passes, but I say fight fire with fire. If a bill is put on a ballot that basically punches all industry and commerce in the gut - then we have to fight back hard.
1) We push for initiatives to end collective bargaining for state employees.
2) We push an initiative giving any parent the right to a school voucher,
3) We push an initiative that requires the state comptroller or state auditor to seek competitive bidding for every state function from highway construction to the services offered by the DMV, and then give those contracts to the lowest bidder.
Two can play this game.
What Brown is saying is that the unions are strong and we have to give them something or else. No. The unions cannot bully the state, the state employees work for the people of the state and the minute they become inefficient, ineffective, or obsolete they have to move on and make themselves efficient, effective and necessary.
My company divested all commercial property last year and switched to leasing. They will be well positioned to exit CA if necessary. I’ll pack up and relocate as neccessary to stay employed. My home is in Idaho. My employment is wherever necessary. Brown and the public employee unions will financially collapse the state.
Yes there are tons of libs but most still support prop 13. They are not fools entirely. It isn’t a conservative/liberal issue it is a serious financial issue. Raise commercial property taxes in state that just came off a 15 year real estate boom and everyone pays. Retail prices of all things will jump. Dental services, medical offices, factory floors, bars and restaurants... you name it, everyone will pay directly, and everyrone will pay again indirectly.
Brown promised he was the only one who knew how to face down the unions. Now he has to do what he promised.
Otherwise I say yes take it to the initiatives and show them no mercy. Crush the teachers union first: Our public education system leaves 41% of black teens and 45% of Hispanic teens behind - they never graduate. This is more than twice the White teen dropout rate. Can you imagine what kind of effective ad campaign can be built around these and other facts about our public school system? It is no secret that the African American community favors a voucher system 2-1. But they don’t have much of a voice. It is time for Conservatives to put conservative values that can win on the ballot. We will turn this around if we take the initiative. We have to dictate the terms of the debate, not them.
A new study shows that if the protections of Prop 13 for property reassessments was removed today that in the aggregate the amount of taxes collected would be no more than what the assessed values are currently.
In other words, due to the decline in property values, assessed values and market values are at parity. Thus, commercial properties are not undertaxed.
Read “Prop 13 Split-Roll Tax is a Rip-Off” at Calwatchdog.com
Link: http://www.calwatchdog.com/2011/06/20/prop-13-split-roll-would-be-ripoff/
This would be the last straw and would motivate us to move out of California immediately. The only reason we have stayed as long as we have is because we are in a court battle with Hubby’s sister over his father.
That won’t matter anymore, we will move.
I and many like minded, live here and are not what you discribe as what is left in California. I and many like minded do not get what we wanted. We stay because the weather is what is worth fighting for. You don’t leave heaven because of the devil. We’ll fight to regain what is lost. Don’t count us out!
These people are very very mentally and spiritually sick!
that would certainly help California's businesses (rolling eyes)
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