Posted on 06/23/2011 11:30:41 AM PDT by Kevmo
Presented on Thursday, finally, officially, the energy investment project of the Greek company Defkalion Green Technologies SA on the industrial application of scientific discovery of the famous "cold fusion nickel and hydrogen" Italian professors Sergio Foccardi and Andrea Rossi has created great interest internationally.
Investing a total budget of 300 to 400 million, includes three industrial units, which will settle in Thrace.. This will produce a massive reactor nickel - hydrogen, the second, based on the reactor will produce household units for heat energy capacity 10 - 30 KW and the third will produce large units 1 - 3 MW. Based on the timing of investors by the end of July we produced the first laboratory reactors, and since November there will be regular industrial production. In January the planned market introduction of small household units. Funding is completely private and comes from Greek Canadian funds through the Cyprus company will participate by 64%. The remaining 36% belongs to various Greek investors, none of which has not been up over 4%. The product
. The starting point of the matter is the revolutionary invention of fusion reactor Hydrogen and Nickel (cold fusion in a controlled environment), made by two Italian scientists from the University of Bologna, the Sergio Foccardi and Andrea Rossi, which was officially presented on January 14 in Italy. Based on this discovery can be produced cheap energy, with very low, almost negligible compared with the current data, since the reactor can produce more energy than it consumes in its operation. The rights to use and industrial use (for non-military purposes) of the invention of the Italians for the whole world except the United States took the Greek-diversified company Defkalion. The company took care, supported by Greek scientists, to "translate" technical scientific results and create a device that after initial activation, generates heat without need for additional power and without creating pollution or harmful radiation to humans The thermal energy that can be used to produce hot water and space heating and a rate of around 40%, be converted into electricity through a common converter (inverter). According to company officials, the cost for acquiring the device will not exceed 4,000 to 5,000 euros, while around 500 - 900 euros is the cost of the converter to produce electrical energy. The excess electricity, as with domestic PV systems can be fed into the electrical system and is bought by DEI, providing income to the producer The method, apart from domestic use, can be applied to energy production in agriculture, livestock, crafts, businesses, public buildings and, under conditions in industry. The scientific basis of unit
. The cold fusion process that is underlying science unit, is a "hot" field of physics that has caused heated debates in recent years. It is a reaction that occurs at room temperature, in which two smaller nuclei together to form a larger simultaneously releasing great amounts of energy. During the 80's Pons and Fleishmann claimed that they had reached a cold fusion reaction, but their experiment could not be repeated. Από . Since any theory and hypothesis of cold fusion was rejected, thus creating a stream of scientific reticence on the subject . Despite this skepticism a small portion of scientists continued to investigate the matter.
. The last new subversive came from Italy and are those which have started to create the specific application . Two scientists, engineer Andrea Rossi and Prof. Sergio Focardi, University of Bologna, was demonstrated publicly on January 14 of this year's time, a cold fusion device capable of producing 12.400 Wh heat entering only 400 W power. . The Italian scientists showed that a new production of green energy with common materials (Nickel and hydrogen catalyst), with little cost and without emitting air pollutants or radioactive waste. Their results were confirmed by independent measurements already third and receiving positive reviews from physical size first as professor at the University of Uppsala Sven Kullander, president of the National Academy of Sciences Energy Committee, the Hanno Essén, professor at the Swedish Royal Institute of Technology, the Dr Edmud Storms etc. There are few who argue that the specific effect of Engineering and Natural Rossi Focardi creates the need to ... . rewrite certain chapters of physics.
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Liberals are hypocrites. They drive cars and turn on the lights when they get home, just like us.
I had not thought of your version of why the MSM is ignoring this, but it fits quite well. Of course, if this is successful, the Obama administration will take credit for it. So that kinda leaves me in an ambivalent state, hoping this will be successful... after Obama leaves office in 2012.
There is also a spiritual component to something like this. Let’s say it is all that Rossi says it is. Cheap energy, no more reliance on middle east loonies for energy, etc.
1 Thessalonians 5:3
While people are saying, Peace and safety, destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
1 Thessalonians 5:2-4
IIRC = If I Recall Correctly. What if you don’t recall correctly?
It’s easy to just sit back and say, “scam”. But there’s basically no value in it. The same thing was said about the Wright brothers. The right thing to do is to develop the knowledge & inductive skillset to determine HOW it’s a scam or IF it’s a scam.
How to Prove that the Rossi/Focardi eCAT LENR is Real
LENR.QUMBO.com ^ | April 6, 2011 | Alan Fletcher
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 7:52:15 PM by Kevmo
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2730401/posts
Q) What’s the sound of an orchestrated scam entering its final phase?
A) Kaching!
Yeah it sure sounds like Bologna to me.
If you read more carefully, you will see that what Rossi actually said was that the CURRENT IMPLEMENTATION is only usable as a heat source, and that was said back in the first couple of demos back in January or so. That was when things were very much in the "research prototype" stage, which was not designed for high operating pressures and temperatures (which are necessary to drive a genset).
One of the things Defkalion was to do (with Rossi's guidance) was to develop the methodologies to extend the operating range to that necessary for purposes other than heating.
These kinds of articles appear every few months, and so far they’ve all proven to be scams.
Hey, they say they’ll have product in just a few months. Let’s wait and see what surfaces by October. My prediction: they will be just on the cusp if they only can get a little more money.
You need to consider that the point at which the "steam" is being shown is at the end of about 3 or more meters of exhaust tubing, which is more than sufficient to condense out most of water from the stream (and transfer most of the energy to the room interior as "waste heat".
You'd be surprised at how easily heat is lost through tube. I'm currently doing much the same thing on a much smaller scale...we're working on a small fluidic "digester" to chemically treat samples. We push an aqueous solution (about 500 ul) into a small, very thick walled glass vessel, close a couple of valves, and heat it up to 200 C. At the end of the digestion, we open a different valve, and the steam (and analyte) exits the reactor into a 1/16" OD (0.030" ID) Teflon tube. The steam makes about two inches before it starts to condense. We then take the condensed liquid aliguot to further processing and measurement.
What you see with Rossi's gizmo is absolutely NOT surprising (or unusual).
Thanks for the prediction.
You seem to be unaware just how unique this particular claim is. It is no run-of-the-mill scam, he’s got several scientists saying it’s real.
It’s the oldest university in southern Europe, was in existence for ~600+/- years before Harvard.
Reminds me of the great antigravity machine.
The only thing that is ever consistent with these claims are the inconsistencies... 12,400 Wh of heat (energy) has no relation to 400W of power unless we know how long that power was applied. Apples to apples, please.
According to Wikipedia,
The Alma Mater Studiorum - University of Bologna (Italian: Alma Mater Studiorum Università di Bologna, UNIBO) is the oldest continually operating university in the world, the word ‘universitas’ being first used by this institution at its foundation. The true date of its founding is uncertain, but believed by most accounts to have been 1088.[1]
It will follow the economics of printers and toner cartridges. The evergy creating devices will be practically given away, but they’ll make the real money on the unicorn fart refills.
Who took the rights for the U.S.?
ping.
I hate to throw cold water on the cold fusion story, but my answer is still:
BS
Now Kevmo, before you slam me let me say: Given the extreme conditions required for fusion of hydrogen-hydrogen, I just blindly refuse to believe that any other fusion reaction involving heavier elements can be achieved under lesser conditions.
You follow this much more closely than most of us others, so you might be able to quickly give a little more technical details explaning how they can pull this off?
besides, its all Greek to me.....
oh, and if this device truly were to work, Greece would be able to solve its financial woes by controlling its use. They could ‘make’ energy and sell it.
You follow this much more closely than most of us others, so you might be able to quickly give a little more technical details explaning how they can pull this off?
***All right. Here’s my take on how.
The Hydrogen atoms get absorbed into a lattice structure like Palladium or Nickel. What were once free-as-the-wind atoms are now restricted in movement to 6 axes. When enough of them start rubbing into each other, they turn like magnets into various positions, and then they will all move together, in unison as a vibration entity. This is the alignment of their phonon energy. When 2 of these phonon entities which are just strings of hydrogen atoms moving in one direction, when they collide, they quantum tunnel the 2 hydrogen atoms at the forefront of the collision, and with some possible variations such as the Widom Larson theory, you end up with 2 hydrogen atoms fused together. Or 2 deuterium atoms, or 4 atoms producing Helium or all kinds of myriad effects. One of those myriad effects is a huge explosion at the atomic level that destroys the host lattice and transmutes the metal.
So the closest theories are the Widom Larson theory and KP Sinha’s theory. I have also personally met someone who used software developed on Mills’ theory and he says it predicts chemical behavior of certain atoms & molecules much better than other models.
In the end, it is likely to be a conglomeration of Widom-Larson/KP Sinha/Mills/FillInTheBlank that describes this phenomena.
My favorite is KP Sinha’s because there is no new physics.
A model for enhanced fusion reaction in a solid matrix of metal deuterides
Wednesday, June 08, 2011 10:14:09 PM · by Kevmo · 35 replies
International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2008 ^ | July 2008 | K P Sinha
I think that would be Ampenergo.
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