Posted on 06/23/2011 3:46:24 AM PDT by lbryce
Congressmen Ron Paul, Barney Frank and others will introduce legislature Thursday that aims to end a major part of the war on drugs -- namely the battle against marijuana.
Reps. Paul (R-Texas) and Frank (D-Mass.), though technically on opposite sides of the aisle, have often spoken out against the war on drugs and will propose a bill "tomorrow ending the federal war on marijuana and letting states legalize, regulate, tax, and control marijuana without federal interference," according to a statement from the Marijuana Policy Project via Reason.
The bill would allow the individual states to decide how they want to deal with pot. Currently the federal government bogarts U.S. law, oftentimes arresting owners and employees of medical marijuana facilities, for example, who thought they were operating legally under city, county and/or state laws.
"The legislation would limit the federal governments role in marijuana enforcement to cross-border or inter-state smuggling, allowing people to legally grow, use or sell marijuana in states where it is legal," according to the MPP statement.
The legislation, co-sponsored by Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.), Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.), Rep. Jared Polis (D-Colo.), and Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Oakland), is the first of its kind to be proposed in Congress that would end the 73-year-old federal marijuana prohibition that began with the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937.
Although Frank insists that this "is not a legalization bill," it will be an excellent test for those in Congress who claim to be for a limited, smaller, federal government -- one that gives more power to the states whenever possible as Paul and the "tea party" have rallied for over the last few years.
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umm absolutely not, all Im saying is theirs idiots all over the country who dont have a bit of the good sense that God gave them. Im sorry for your inability to understand what I was trying to say.
lol......should have included an /s after my comment. After all, the liberals voted for him because they needed someone to guide them.
Glad to see that you finished with an ad hominem; good boy!
After tripping up a little, Rep. Paul replied yes, then found himself arguing in favor of legalizing heroin, asking, if we legalize heroin tomorrow, is everyone is going use heroin? How many people here would use heroin if it were legal? The question was greeted with cheers, to which Wallace replied with a smile, I never thought heroin would get an applause in South Carolina.
So hop on down to your local 7/11 and get some heroin for the party.
Have you ever been in a household where the parents were so passed out they did not take care of there children? Where after a few years of use their brain cells are down to nothing? Yes, I know alcohol does the same thing and its legal. So, since we have one vice that is ruining families across the US, we should be fair allow the other? Most likely we will see the children continuing the pattern, like welfare, its a family tradition. Of course, I'm sure a pothead parent has already let them take a toke when they were little for laughs. Who's going to pay to have the chidlren taken out of the home until the parents kick the habit? I know it seems giving people all the freedom they want seems the American way, but some people can't handle that freedom & their kids must pay the consequences. Please don't think this is directed at you. I just think we see freedom as candy and think all candy is good.
Have you ever been in a household where the parents were so passed out they did not take care of there children? Where after a few years of use their brain cells are down to nothing? Yes, I know alcohol does the same thing and its legal. So, since we have one vice that is ruining families across the US, we should be fair allow the other? Most likely we will see the children continuing the pattern, like welfare, its a family tradition. Of course, I'm sure a pothead parent has already let them take a toke when they were little for laughs. Who's going to pay to have the chidlren taken out of the home until the parents kick the habit? I know it seems giving people all the freedom they want seems the American way, but some people can't handle that freedom & their kids must pay the consequences. Please don't think this is directed at you. I just think we see freedom as candy and think all candy is good.
“...it will be an excellent test for those in Congress who claim to be for a limited, smaller, federal government...”
It’s so telling that this is the issue the liberaltarians always pick to test our commitment to small government.
Do you support the same conditions for alcohol? You drink it, you bear the costs? You drink it and commit a crime, then you will die? If not, why not?
Every pot smoker I've ever met has been or become a dope head. They've let the drug make them into losers. Every last one of them.
That is most likely incorrect. Chances are, without even knowing it, you've met some successful, non-dope-head people who smoke marijuana;
letting states legalize, regulate, tax, and control marijuana without federal interference
OK, who buys the part that says the US Gubmint will pass on the tax windfall were this to become law?
“Not saying govt should be the baby sitter”
Of course not. Ann Coulter wrote a piece about “The Pot Party” some years ago and pointed out that legalizing drugs, while we have a nanny state is stupid. It’s extremely disingenuous when liberaltarians say “You’re for small government but support the war on drugs! You’re a hypocrite and a theocrat!! Blah, blah, blah!” No. Let’s end wellfar and food stamps first. Then let’s stop subsidizing indoctrination camps (public schools). Then... The list goes on. Then, let’s talk about ending the war on drugs.
For them to do that first shows they just want to get high.
“I know plenty of smokers who are motivated, have what I’d call good attitudes and are certainly not losers.”
No you don’t.
“But we can see how well that is working out anymore.”
It’s not because parents are giving their kids over to 1) Leftist school teachers. 2) Leftist Hollywood types. 3) Their peers.
You can’t ignore the fact that this is Barney Frank cosponsoring the bill.
There’s a reason George Soros dumps so much money into drug legalization and it ain’t a love of freedom.
Your point, and my point is, if we make pot legal this country will be disproportionally worse. To argue that is illogical and just plain stupid. The war on drugs is big government. That’s true. We have a philosophical issue meeting a real world issue. They can be resolved though. There are so many problems that need to be resolved before we get to legalizing drugs or this country will not be livable. That’s what Barney wants (an unlivable country).
“having said that, the penalties for simple possession ( up to and including death by stormtroopers ) are worse than the drug itself.”
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Yes, people often fail to realize that some things are like growing old, the only thing worse is the only alternative.
Maybe all the young potheads will change their vote from Obama to Paul. Perhaps decriminialization is the answer, but I gotta tell you...
I see the effects of marijuana on young people everyday and it isn’t pretty. THe problem is that the younger the kids are, the worse effect on the brain development. The easier it is to get, the more kids will try it. With youth unemployment higher and higher, we’ll just have a bunch of stoned kids...yeah, that’s the answer.
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