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Allen West explains Pigford vote
the right scoop ^ | 20Jun 2011

Posted on 06/22/2011 12:31:58 AM PDT by shove_it

Allen West says that he didn’t do enough due diligence on the Pigford amendment and says he may have to take this one ‘in the shorts’:

[audio interview at link]


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To: shove_it

Refreshing...


21 posted on 06/22/2011 5:32:33 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '12)
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To: EternalVigilance

I agree with you. He knew exactly what he was doing and followed the old rubric “easier to apologize than to explain”. EVERYBODY knew about Pigford. “Not enough homework” is a pathetic excuse.


22 posted on 06/22/2011 5:33:08 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Gargantua

I know of one Palin mistake. She ran against Alaskan corruption and revised their ethics laws trying to correct it. But she underestimated the lengths her enemies would take. Her law left accused officials responsible for the legal costs of defending themselves against charges, whether they were true, false or full on fraudulent. She certainly hadn’t anticipated being innocently driven to personal bankruptcy by her own law. I suspect she’s learned and won’t repeat that mistake.


23 posted on 06/22/2011 6:05:59 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: PalmettoMason

No matter the retrospect excuses, “they” will always vote their “their” people.

Unless West was born last night he knew without any doubt that Pigford was a racist payoff and I accept no excuse for a vote FOR any Bill associated with Pigford.

Anyone know with any certainty that he did not vote for nobama in 2008? 95%+ voting nobama leaves very few who did not.


24 posted on 06/22/2011 6:54:03 AM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: dusttoyou

Just looked at who voted Yah and Nay, lots of conservatives voted Yah and lots of lib/dems voted No. I may have to retract my statement considering there may have been some good reason to vote Yah, like a poison pill in the Bill.


25 posted on 06/22/2011 7:01:45 AM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: UCANSEE2

Sure I would.


26 posted on 06/22/2011 8:11:00 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Tea Party: 'Give us our country back.' - GOP: 'Give us our power back.' Two very different things..)
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To: PalmettoMason

I like Allan West, but his decision to join the Congressional Black caucus does not sit well with me.

His vote with that Caucus on Pigford sits even worse.

When Charles Lollar was running against Steny Hoyer in Maryland, I asked him if he would join the CBC and his answer was an emphatic NO.

The CBC is a racist organisation, and has no business even being in existence. It is the Klan with a Tan and I doubt that Allan Wests influence in that organisation will do anything to change that. He should drop out.


27 posted on 06/22/2011 8:38:19 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: yldstrk

Those who fraudulently applied for money under Pigford should be prosecuted, along with the Lawyers who told them to do it.


28 posted on 06/22/2011 8:40:44 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: shove_it
He has much to recommend him. From Wikipedia:

Allen West was born in Atlanta, Georgia, to Herman and Elizabeth West. His father and older brother were both career military officers: His father served in World War II, and his brother served in Vietnam.[7] His mother was a civilian employee of the United States Marine Corps. West joined the Junior Reserve Officers' Training Corps program in the tenth grade and entered the United States Army in 1983 after he graduated from the University of Tennessee. West was a member of the third of four consecutive generations in his family to serve in the United States armed forces.[8]

West received his bachelor of arts degree from University of Tennessee and his master's degree in political science from Kansas State University. He also earned a master of military arts and sciences degree from the U.S. Army Command and General Staff Officer College in political theory and military history and operations.[3]

Military career (1983–2004)

Overview

West entered active duty on November 1, 1983, at Fort Sill then attended the Field Artillery Officer Basic Course. He then completed airborne training at Fort Benning. West's first assignment was as an airborne infantry company fire support team leader and battalion training officer in the 325th Airborne Battalion Combat Team. He was promoted to captain in 1987 and graduated from the Field Artillery Officer Advanced Course.[9] West was next assigned to the 1st Infantry Division, commanding B Battery, 6th Field Artillery Regiment. He was a Battalion Task Force fire support officer for 2d Battalion, 16th Infantry Regiment. As a member of the 1st Infantry Division, he participated in Operation Desert Shield and Operation Desert Storm.[9] After redeployment from Kuwait, West served as an Army ROTC instructor at Kansas State University from 1991 to 1994. Becoming the US Army ROTC Instructor of the Year in 1993. In January 1995 he was assigned to the 2nd Infantry Division Support Command as the assistant operations/combat plans officer. West was promoted to major and attended the U.S. Army Command and General Staff College in 1997. Upon completion, he became operations officer for the 18th Field Artillery Brigade before being assigned as executive officer of the 1st Battalion, 377th Field Artillery Regiment. West was an Army exchange officer at the II Marine Expeditionary Force at Camp Lejeune from 1999 to 2002.[9]

He became battalion commander of the 2d Battalion 20th Field Artillery nicknamed "Deep Strike", 4th Infantry Division on June 6, 2002. He held this position until his retirement from the Army.[10]

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Pigford, the CBC and his position regarding abortion are problems.

29 posted on 06/22/2011 8:46:12 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: JohnBovenmyer
You confuse equivocation with expedience. That the Dembiciles (predictably) misused and abused the Law in an attempt to destroy a modern day Saint is not an argument for simply not having laws.

Your argument would, put another way, claim that we should never have passed laws against "Rape" because they lead to "Tawanna Brawley"-type abuses.

Please. The suggestion is ridiculous, and likely beneath you. Sarah did the right thing making it easier for honorable people to hold their elected officials accountable. Should the Legislature now consider additional laws imposing serious deterrents from abusing this law frivolously? Perhaps.

But suggesting that Palin was in error by giving control of their elected officials back to the good people of Alaska is just sick. As are, so far, all of the attacks on Palin's accomplishments in office. None have withstood even minimal scrutiny... while Sarah still withstands the most massive microscopic socio-political colonoscopy in human history.

And yet shines like the sun.

Deal. With. It.

;^\/

30 posted on 06/22/2011 9:04:33 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin 2012 ~ Going Oval" ©2010 by Gargantua)
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To: dusttoyou

I’ve searched but can not find the text of Steve King’s amendment. Apparently it is available only from your congress critter.


31 posted on 06/22/2011 9:21:57 AM PDT by shove_it (just undo it)
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To: Gargantua
I think we're misunderstanding each other. I'm not saying Alaskan's didn't need better control of their elected officials nor that Sarah shouldn't have come up with something along the lines of her law to accomplish it. I'm not even saying there shouldn't be at least some potential personal cost exposure for said officials. I am saying her law has been proven to need fine tuning, it wasn't 'perfect.' Personal bankruptcy was certainly not one of her intended consequences when she signed it.

Now I'm NOT one of those who argue against doing 'good' for fear it isn't 'perfect.' Some Freepers have notorious reputations for such arguments. The American experiment has been designing checks and balances to better control problems arising out of normal - imperfect - people. Alaskan political law pre-Gov. Palin needed more checks, post-Gov. Palin it needed some more balance. The Tawana Brawley case illustrates well the problem. The NY legal system was used by Al Sharpton, et al, to abuse the innocent. But the NY legal code also provided for redress in the form of a subsequent successful, albeit imperfectly enforced, defamation lawsuit against Sharpton. Sarah's law didn't seem to offer any limits at all against false accusations, no matter how obviously false or how often they are made.

Amongst Palin's many virtues, I trust you'd agree, is humility. She'd be the first to deny she was perfect or even nearly perfect. I take your soaring endorsement of her as "about as close to perfection as this world is likely to see this side of Rapture" as both well deserved admiration on your part and equally deserved indignation over the many malicious attacks on her. Now I agree, that based on all we've seen to date (and the amount we've seen is unprecedented!), she's extremely impressive and the best we're likely to find. But when talk approached perfection a small dose of balance was indicated. Or some liberal judge might rule premature canonization rendered her ineligible on 'separation of church and state grounds.' In this case I think she was naive in expecting all her fellow citizens would live up to her standards of civic duty. None of her competition can claim as small a mistake. I presumed she's learned from it so won't have to similarly leave her next job before her eight years are up.

33 posted on 06/22/2011 9:07:21 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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