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Barack Obama and Pentagon split on Afghanistan pullout
Guardian.co.uk ^ | June 21, 2011 | Ewen MacAskill in Washington, Nick Hopkins and Patrick Wintour

Posted on 06/21/2011 3:30:44 PM PDT by Hojczyk

Barack Obama is set to reject the advice of the Pentagon by announcing on Wednesday night the withdrawal of up to 30,000 troops from Afghanistan by November next year, in time for the US presidential election.

The move comes despite warnings from his military commanders that recent security gains are fragile. They have been urging him to keep troop numbers high until 2013.

The withdrawal has created deep divisions in Washington. The defence secretary, Robert Gates, argued for a modest reduction – at one point as low as 2,000 – citing the advice of US commanders in Afghanistan that they need to protect gains made during the winter against the Taliban.

But senior White House staff, conscious that the president has an election to fight next year, argued in favour of a reduction that would send a signal to the US public that an end to the war is in sight.

The accelerated drawdown will dismay American and British commanders in Kabul, who have privately expressed concern that the White House is now being driven by political rather than military imperatives.

"This is not something we feel entirely comfortable with," a Whitehall official told the Guardian.

Obama's nationally televised address, the sixth he has given since becoming president, is intended to mark the beginning of the end of American military deployment in Afghanistan, from a present high of almost 100,000 troops.

The White House confirmed that the withdrawal will be "significant".

Obama's decision is aimed at placating an American public tired of a 10-year war that has cost 1,522 US lives. The killing of Osama bin Laden added impetus to calls to pull out.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; imamobama; military; musliminchief; obama457states; rememberhasan; soaof57states; taliban; thegoodwar; troops
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1 posted on 06/21/2011 3:30:46 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

So the Idiot, knows more than our military???


2 posted on 06/21/2011 3:36:17 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: Hojczyk

Just...wow


3 posted on 06/21/2011 3:36:21 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Sarah Palin is the mirror by which evil reflects back upon itself until consumed out of existence)
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To: Hojczyk

We have to look to Europe for decent journalism.


4 posted on 06/21/2011 3:40:04 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Democrats = authoritarian socialists)
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To: Hojczyk

Let America and her future go to Hell in a hand-basket when it’s all about the me-my-andI, for the first time in his adult life proud of USA president.


5 posted on 06/21/2011 3:40:57 PM PDT by parisa
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To: Hojczyk

Naturally all this was covered in Panetta’s confirmation hearings and his nomination was delayed until Obama addressed the concerns ... right? Hey, speak up, I can’t hear you over the chirping of the crickets.


6 posted on 06/21/2011 3:45:12 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (From her lips to the voters' ears: Debbie Wasserman Schultz: "We own the economy" June 15, 2011)
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To: Hojczyk

Wait a minute! Didn’t he (or one of his cronies) say just yesterday that any decision on withdrawal would be based on the judgment of the commanders in the field?! What a baldfaced liar he is!


7 posted on 06/21/2011 3:46:41 PM PDT by StonyMan451
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To: MestaMachine
I'm not surprised, he thinks he is the brightest lite in the Nation...he loves.....HIMSELF.

The guy has done nothing but golf, vacation, party and now he tells our Military to ‘get use to it’ I'WON...and he will make all decisions.
He has chosen to make this big speech from the White House, while his wife, daughters,and Michelle's family members and many friends VACATION in Africa

oh god...hurry up 2012

8 posted on 06/21/2011 3:47:43 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: Hojczyk

I can smell the politics in this call...
but it is the right call.

We’re not going to accomplish what needs to be accomplished there, so get out.

Generals play politics, too.


9 posted on 06/21/2011 3:52:59 PM PDT by JaxLaxDad
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To: Hojczyk

Since the MSM no longer reports on the war, he can go ahead and screw that up, too.


10 posted on 06/21/2011 3:57:46 PM PDT by Spok
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To: haircutter

We HAVE to get a Republican into the WH!

I want the most conservative, but I WILL CAMPAIGN my heartout for anyone the Reps end up picking because we HAVE TO GET RID OF THIS TRAITOR!!HE IS DESTROYING OUR COUNTRY.

btw... I can’t stand to hear Hunstman talk,,OH God help us in 2012!


11 posted on 06/21/2011 4:04:28 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: popdonnelly

Thats twice in one day as The Telegraph reported earlier on Mama Obama’s reception by a prison minister in South Africa.


12 posted on 06/21/2011 4:05:15 PM PDT by John W (Natural-born US citizen since 1955)
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To: Hojczyk

Cut and run.
The only victory that matters is elections to Obozo.


13 posted on 06/21/2011 4:21:03 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: Hojczyk

He needs to raise that billion, so once he makes this speech he can go out to his base and tell them that he finally kept one of the promises he made when they elected him, so please get those debit cards back out and hit his website for a quick $20 donation.

That’s exactly what this is all about, Pentagon be damned.


14 posted on 06/21/2011 4:22:31 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Your what hurts??)
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To: Hojczyk

treasonous bastard!!! he will have the blood of U.S. service men on his hands!!!! Impeach him??? Hell he deserves a trial and the appropriate sentence!!!!


15 posted on 06/21/2011 4:41:26 PM PDT by is_is (VP Dad of Sgt. G - My Hero - "Sleep Well America......Your Marines have your Back")
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To: Hojczyk

There is always mass resignation. especially among the senior officer corp

It is a volunteer military


16 posted on 06/21/2011 5:19:36 PM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: All
Lotta good replies here but the one I (IN MY LESS THAN HUMBLE OPINION) agree with astutely was posted by is_is.

Obuma needs to be impeached, tried for TREASON and put behind bars.

SEMPER FI

In Liberty...

17 posted on 06/21/2011 6:57:53 PM PDT by progunner (no compromise)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

A frustrated Afghanistan was unavailable for comment.

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18 posted on 06/21/2011 7:03:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, once again, it's time for an old joke alert!)
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To: Hojczyk

Apparently I’m in the minority here, but I say bring them all home. What is it we’re trying to accomplish in Afghanistan exactly? What does victory look like? I’m tired of our men getting killed to defend a 13th century culture that won’t change regardless of what we do.


19 posted on 06/21/2011 7:16:52 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: SunkenCiv

Civ! ROFL!


20 posted on 06/21/2011 7:26:32 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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