Posted on 06/19/2011 1:02:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
“I understand the HPV vaccine program was always an “opt-out” program. “
Opt-out = mandatory
Opt-in = optional
Perry is still a nanny-stater, converted Democrat, no matter how you slice and dice it.
As a Texan, my biggest problem with the order was that I did not and still do not believe that the vaccine had been out long enough for some of the side effects to start showing up and for parents to make a well informed decision.
My other problem was that even with the opt out ... It was getting real close to infringing on parents’ rights.
HPV is linked to many cancers later in life.
Both my sons, ages 22 and 15, have had the shots.
When is an executive order not an order, but an “executive suggestion”?
A governor has NO BUSINESS mandating that children be required to be vaccinated against STD. Period.
This is very troubling insight into the role-of-govt mindset of Rick Perry.
Like I said. This is the primaries. The rings of fire are out there for everyone. Only one candidate is going to make it all the way through, and that is a while away.
This thread, at least STARTED, with a request for discussion. It ended up an argument about vaccines. The fact is, at the time perry proposed this executive order, the vaccine was unproven and had not been tested as it should have. That was my point to start with. WHY push an UNPROVEN vaccine? Why the rush? What purpose was there to do this? It didn’t make sense, still doesn’t, and the aftermath could have been disastrous for these young girls. That was/is my concern. And why wasn’t that HIS concern?
Scared of Perry? LOL I do not agree with that (no disrespect to ya). For example in 2010 he was for “in state tuition” during debates for illegal immigrants... In 2011 he changed his mind. I think he can be obviously “influenced” by Merck money, or the fear of losing votes. While I think it is ok to have a road to demascus moment on issues, you need to stand up and clarify your intent. He needs to have crystal clear yes and no answers on every issue.
Perry became a Republican in 1989
Ronald Reagan was also a Democrat (1932-1962) before joining the Republican Party.
In October 2007, despite their political differences on many social issues, Perry endorsed Rudy Giuliani for President. "Rudy Giuliani is the most prepared individual of either party to be the next President... I'm not talkin' about any mayor, I'm talkin' about America's Mayor," Perry said.[93] Some conjectured that, if Giuliani were elected, Perry might have been considered for a position in the new President's cabinet, or perhaps the Vice Presidency.[94] However, Giuliani withdrew from the race on January 30, 2008 after failing to gain support in early primaries. Both Giuliani and Perry immediately endorsed Arizona Senator John McCain for President.[95]
This guy was still a Demonrat all through the Reagan years. He was Al Gore's campaign manager in 1988.
I think he's just another opportunist career politician who flipped and flopped and knows that conservative rhetoric plays well in today's Texas.
This guy is a Statist.
You have a good point.
Reagan admitted his mistake.
Perry has not. Perry FORCED materials of unknown
result (there WERE inadequate testing for young children)
onto children.
Like Michele Romney Rollins Bachmann, there is no
admission, no apology, and now, NO SALE.
So that's your standard as to who you will support, a Conservative candidate the media will love and adore?
Who might that media-loving Conservative be, may I ask?
You jump on a trivial controversy and pompously declare that sanctimony requires Christ like perfection defined by you.
Such an attitude is not acceptable
And we are talking about nominating this man for President? Optout or no opt out he interfered mightily in the free market and in peoples' freedom. Let's put Perry talk up there with Romney talk.
Basic English. Please break this sentence down and explain how it makes perfect sense on any level except doublespeak.
The importance of knowing about Rick Perry’s involvement is to understand he is in bed with Big Pharma, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, and he did this at a time when Merck was lobbying EVERY female STATE legislator in the United States to make the dangerous HPV Vaccine MANDATORY for all girls. This vaccine has been outlawed in many countries outside the US, including India and Spain. Perry has LOTS of ‘splainin’ to do on this issue.
Oh, please. Don’t pick a bogus argument where there is none. Read the posts for heaven’s sake.
Governor Rick Perry doesn't need my advice but I'm sure he will be answering questions in the coming months and we'll all see how he handles this.
There are more issues and I'm sure we will be covering them in detail. Including this one:
Senate votes to drive final stake through Trans Texas Corridor [excerpt] AUSTIN — The ceremony was brief and drew few mourners, but the Trans Texas Corridor is finally dead.
The Senate unanimously passed a bill that strikes from state law any language, reference and authority once connected to the massive highway envisioned to slice a swath through Texas.
The same measure already has passed the House. There are some minor differences that still need to be reconciled, but the bill is expected to go to Gov. Rick Perry, who will have to decide whether to join in the final rites for his once-prized project.
Legislators did keep a provision that was allowed under the authority of the Trans Texas Corridor: the potential of 85 mph speed limits on certain highways that are properly engineered to handle the higher speeds.
The highway corridor to parallel Interstate 35 had been a signature issue for Perry, but it was doomed after angry citizens rebelled against the private contracts, the massive proposed taking of private land and what was seen as arrogance by state transportation officials.
Perry said last year that the highway is dead, but lawmakers this year are determined to salt the earth. [end excerpt]
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Elendur: A lot of threads have been posted on Perry. Search by their names and you find a lot of great stuff. I was hoping to keep the scope of this thread narrow since some FReepers have been commenting about it on other threads. I wanted to address it so that they could make their points on a thread dedicated to that topic (a searchable thread for future reference.
You really should have your eyes examined.
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