Posted on 06/16/2011 11:36:15 PM PDT by 1pitech
Officials at Goshen College, a Mennonite college in Indiana, have banned the use of the Star-Spangled Banner during sporting events. The reason school officials gave for the ban was that America’s National Anthem was deemed too violent. Specifically, according to Todd Starnes of FOX News, the school’s online fact sheet stated, “Historically, playing the national anthem has not been among Goshen College’s practices because of our Christ-centered core value of compassionate peacemaking seeming to be in conflict with the anthem’s militaristic language.” Professor John Blosser, an art instructor at Goshen, attempted to clarify the school’s opposition to the national anthem by saying, “It’s obviously about a battle. It’s rather violent. It’s about using violence to conquer and that would be something that many people would have problems with.”
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And the horse sh-t gets deeper, we’ve far surpassed the 1st 11 years of the last century. And this from a supposedly religous institution.
LLS
My Bible teaches that GOD HIMSELF can get pretty violent when he is angry.
LLS
A hope a biblical scholar can help me. I believe the statement that they will beat their plowshares into swords preceeds the swords into plowshares. Was it Amos? Or one of the prophets?
A hope a biblical scholar can help me. I believe the statement that they will beat their plowshares into swords preceeds the swords into plowshares. Was it Amos? Or one of the prophets?
Given their traditions, there is no reason why they would play the national anthem at sporting events.
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Correct...this is really ‘old news’. Even the article cites “Historically, playing the National Anthem has NOT been among Goshen Colleges practices...etc”
So this isn’t a practice that was thought up yesterday.
Go to a ball game with multiple fields and ‘the norm’ is if a game is in progress and another is just starting they DON’T stop the game in progress to observe the Anthem being played for the game just starting....(at least at the majority of the HS games I have been to this spring).
I really figure in this case better to let the kids get used to it. Oh yes, the kids do have a ‘team meeting’ prior to their games with no coaches present...heads bowed etc...don’t imagine they are praying now do you....
Few years back - as a civilian - I was exiting Fort Dietrick MD when Evening Colors were being observed...I exited my vehicle and stood at attention while the car behind me started blowing his horn. (I wasn’t impeding anything because the MP’s had ‘stopped’ what they were doing). Last I saw of the ‘horn blower’ was a couple of MP’s had him pulled over “inspecting his vehicle” etc...
Goshen College better close their doors. History is much more violent then the national anthem.
“Christ-centered core value of compassionate peacemaking”
Contrast that drivel with The Word: “His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword” (Revelation 1:16)
and:
“the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
[8] Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
[9] Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel.” (Psalm 2:7)
and:
“But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.” (Luke 19:27)
Perhaps the 'horn blower' will think next time!
Perhaps the ‘horn blower’ will think next time!
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I seriously doubt he would ‘learn’ anything.
Usually that ‘stoopid’ is unteachable.
Of course, he did ‘win’ in the long run.
Now have civilians at most DOD gates - Guess you could call them “TSA light”.
At least with Military on Gate, if you had VN or some such tags on Vehicle you were treated with a little courtesy.
My VN tags ALWAYS drew a salute when going onto Quantico.
Especially if you had all your ‘stuff’ in order when the MP got to your vehicle....
I believe that strict pacifism is fundamentally evil. They depend upon others to protect them, while indulging in feelings moral superiority over the "violent" defenders.
Finally when a situation arises where one of them must use force to protect those he loves, he is proclaimed as being sinful for practicing violence. They give their members a choice between laying down their lives, or laying down their souls.
Violence is the only reason Americans are still somewhat free. Over a million Americans have died in war to defend that freedom.
Generally, pacifist (and many not so pacifist) Christian followings take spiritual metaphor and illustration from the Old Testament when seeing what it has to teach them, without necessarily denying a secondary literal meaning for a limited people group. When preaching verses out of the Old Testament to a congregation on Sunday, the preacher has ample time to explain his context. I don’t think they would want to have to follow The Star Spangled Banner with a cautionary exegesis every time they sing it.
Doormattery doesn’t really work unless you have an enemy that can be shamed at the sight of carnage. Such instances in history are limited.
Morons.
The song is about people defending themselves against conquerors!
I believe it was during the War of 1812. The English attacked Fort McHenry, which defended itself, and F. S. Key, who was on a ship anchored in the harbor, was inspired to write the verses which became our national anthem, if I remember correctly.
O beautiful for patriot dream
That sees beyond the years
Thine alabaster cities gleam
Undimmed by human tears! America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
Till nobler men keep once again
Thy whiter jubilee!
Early pacifistic Christianity was moderately workable in the context of the Roman Empire. Despite the "Christians to the lions" stories, if you paid your taxes and didn't try to openly undermine Roman authority, you could live your life in peace and relative security.
When Rome fell, you needed a class of people who could rationalize being Christian with the necessity to respond with extreme violence towards raiders, pirate, and barbarian invaders. These people became the feudal nobility, ruling over the rest who lived as serfs.
Drawing a line at which no enemy dare cross against your family and fellow Christians (without their consent) isn’t quite the same as keeping the serfs down. Fortunately God willed it that the Christians comprising the church, in the same manner as the Jewish race today, survive on God’s promise and not on lack of blunders or things that would be regretted in hindsight.
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