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F-22 grounding continues as oxygen safety probe widens
Flight International ^ | 16 June 2011 | Stephen Trimble

Posted on 06/16/2011 9:00:19 AM PDT by Yo-Yo

More than six weeks after the US Air Force indefinitely grounded all Lockheed Martin F-22A Raptors, the scope of the safety investigation has widened beyond the Honeywell-supplied onboard oxygen generating system (OBOGS).

Although internally described as the "OBOGS safety investigation", the probe launched after the 3 May safety stand-down of the F-22A fleet is "not limited" to that particular system, Air Combat Command (ACC) said in emailed responses to questions.

"We are still working to pinpoint the exact nature of the problem," the ACC said. "It is premature to definitely link the current issues to the OBOGS system."

The stand-down was originally linked to five reports by F-22 pilots of potential oxygen system malfunctions, including one reported instance when an F-22 scraped treetops on final approach. The pilot could not remember the incident after landing, exhibiting a classic symptom of hypoxia.

The OBOGS is not the only device involved in the supply of oxygen to the pilot. Wedged into a space behind and slightly below the pilot's seat, it uses a molecular sieve to filter pressurised air diverted from the engine compressor section into pure oxygen.

In between the OBOGS and an F-22 pilot's lungs, the filtered oxygen passes through two major components - the MBU-22P oxygen mask and the breathing regulator/anti-g (BRAG) valve. The latter "ensures safe delivery of oxygen to the pilot" through the face mask, according to a fact sheet published by the USAF human systems integration office.

"The BRAG is fast-acting due to the manoeuverability of the aircraft and [is] compatible with the existing upper and lower g-garments, which keeps blood in the upper portions of the body during aircraft manoeuvres," the fact sheet added.

The USAF investigation is also comparing the F-22's life support system with other strike aircraft in its fleet, including the Lockheed F-35A Lightning II, Fairchild Republic A-10, Boeing F-15, Lockheed F-16 and Hawker Beechcraft T-6A, the ACC said.

The review is aimed at casting a "broad net for comparison", the command added.

Complaints about the F-22's OBOGS equipment had not surfaced until recently. In January, the ACC ordered the fleet to remain below a service ceiling of 25,000ft (7,620m). The order came two months after an F-22 crashed near Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson, Alaska. That accident, in which the pilot was killed, is under investigation and has not been linked to the oxygen system concerns.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; f22; lockheed; raptors
All F-22s have been grounded since 3 May.
1 posted on 06/16/2011 9:00:24 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Yo-Yo

Not a Northup-Grumman product on this list.


2 posted on 06/16/2011 9:15:31 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Yo-Yo
The OBOGS is not the only device involved in the supply of oxygen to the pilot. Wedged into a space behind and slightly below the pilot's seat, it uses a molecular sieve to filter pressurised air diverted from the engine compressor section into pure oxygen.

Lose both engines and pilot blacks out?

Seems like a bit of a cascade failure waiting to happen.

Maybe they have a backup tank.

Then, you get a two-engine failure and, on top of all the other warnings beeping and booping at you, there's a female voice in your ear saying "120 seconds until oxygen supply depletion."

3 posted on 06/16/2011 9:17:15 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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...there's a female voice in your ear saying "120 seconds until oxygen supply depletion."

If you lose both engines, I don't think you would still be in the cockpit after 120 seconds.

4 posted on 06/16/2011 9:44:05 AM PDT by Mr. Quarterpanel (I am not an actor, but I play one on TV)
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If you lose both engines, I don't think you would still be in the cockpit after 120 seconds.

You've never seen this F-16 dead stick landing video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0DdpC7GV3A

5 posted on 06/16/2011 10:02:29 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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You've never seen this F-16 dead stick landing video?

Thanks for that! I remember watching that video in EPU training many years ago at GD. IIRC the pilot was over Chicago? Anyway, was one great job by the pilot, I'm sure they needed a wheel barrel for his co-hones......;)

6 posted on 06/16/2011 10:25:51 AM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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A pilot flew one into the side of a mountain,wonder what the underlaying cause was?


7 posted on 06/16/2011 10:26:08 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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If you lose both engines, I don't think you would still be in the cockpit after 120 seconds.

Good point.

8 posted on 06/16/2011 11:03:48 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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