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To: harmonium; proud American in Canada
Are you really arguing in 2011, that AIDS is a homosexual, and druggie thing?

Here’s your chance to clarify yourself, rather than whine I’m putting words into someone’s mouth. I mean, why stop there? Why not just deny AIDS ever existed.


You seem remarkably immune to simple points.

You said:
A. There are no reliable AIDS/HIV stats.

B. AIDS and HIV are not a homosexual thing, or a drug user thing. Please don’t mislead anyone into thinking otherwise.
I pointed out that if A is true, then you positively cannot make the assertion of B on any basis of fact.

The methodology of how the CDC compiled the statistics for the 2009 is right HERE. I know you didn't time to read this before you replied previously, so it would be informative to know how you know, not deeply or earnestly believe that there are "no reliable AIDS/HIV" statistics.

I've presented the most recent statistics on a disease that's been around at least since the 1970s (aside from possible outliers) compiled by one of the best centers in the world for the study of disease and its epidemiology and your response is basically, "Nuh uh! They don't know what they're talking about. No one does. And because of that I will make an assertion that is also scientifically void because of what I claim but go on to claim that it still has a higher truth quotient, based on the intensity of my feeling of what I think ought to be."
83 posted on 06/15/2011 5:28:31 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

“I pointed out that if A is true, then you positively cannot make the assertion of B on any basis of fact.”

Which I’m sure you think is some great debate tactic for the argument you’re not even comfortable admitting you’re making... unfortunately, we’re talking about HIV. People die from it. They’re not all drug users, or sexual deviants. Your attempts to defend someone who made that characterization puts blood on your hands. It was denialist attitudes like yours that resulted in countless deaths, including those in the medical profession attending to these patients.

To your ridiculous frosh year debate club argument - you will not be able to find 3 independent sources with the same statistics on HIV internationally. Hell, you won’t even find a consensus on wether oral sex can transmit HIV. Much of the disease still remains a mystery.

Finally..

The study *you* provided from the CDC states that 73% of women (the fastest growing demographic of victims) got HIV from heterosexual sex.

So hush.


84 posted on 06/15/2011 1:29:23 PM PDT by harmonium
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