Posted on 06/13/2011 10:45:35 AM PDT by rawhide
An author of alleged “children’s books” needs to wash his mouth out with soap and find a new airline after dropping the F-bomb aboard an Atlantic Southeast Airlines flight.
The Detroit News reports Brooklyn author Robert Sayegh is thinking about suing the Delta Connection carrier.
According to the article, the 37-year-old, was flying from Kansas City to Newark when a flight attendant overheard him ask “What’s taking so [bleeping] long to close the overhead compartments?”
The plane taxied to the runway but returned to have Sayegh forcibly removed.
Sayegh told the Detroit paper he used the F-word twice.
“I’m like, ‘Are they throwing me off the plane? This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever been through in my life. It’s embarrassing.”
Sayegh, who’s also a TV producer, said he is not “a crazy maniac” and that in New York “we curse as adjectives.”
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As someone else mentioned, maybe the f-comment was directed at the FA? All we have to go on is the guy's whine, and you know he will sugar-coat it to show he was mistreated. I trust the FA and the pilot more than I do this jerk!
Yo, I wonder how much fuel it cost the airline
to be PC, but then again you just can’t fix stupid.
Amen
´Fine with me.
When this liberal said “In New York...”, he was boasting that he could get away with as a New Yorker. In America, I never say “where I’m from which is canada..”. It’s insulting to the place you are currently in and in his case, the airplane and those potential kids around who would have heard it.
I agree with the airline 100%.
Forget the f-bombs!....they need to throw off those people that fart after eating the damn peanuts.....Jeez!.....If you really want something to cry about!
I agree as well. I hate hearing profanity out in public (or private for that matter). I was not brought up around it and I don’t appreciate it on TV or movies but it’s hard to avoid. We really have become uncivilized.
Is he a FReeper?
F word seems to be a very necessary word for a lot of folks here
My grandmother always said that profanity was how the feeble minded express themselves with force. She was so right about that.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2595135/posts
don-o agrees with your grandmother
No, but I'm sometimes forced to wear the male homologue, namely, a necktie, while traveling by airline--strictly to prove I'm a respectable conservative person.
The above article says a flight attendant overheard him swearing as if that's a fact.
However, this article says Robert Sayegh "claims" a flight attendant overheard him, starting the incident. So the source of the story that the flight attendant overheard him was the aggrieved passenger himself and the facts should be viewed through swearing-passenger-colored glasses?
Apparently Mr. Sayegh also admits to being hung over but says he wasn't drunk. I wonder why he needed to volunteer that he wasn't drunk?
With stories like these, it's my opinion that you either need to ignore them because it's clear that not all of the facts are presented, or else you have to engage in some speculation.
As I said in my first post in this sequence, when we extrapolate beyond the facts in a story we are saying more about our own prejudices than we are about the characters in the story. Here is my extrapolation based in my experience with airlines:
The guy had been lied to multiple times that day by airline personnel. He was slapped with extra fees he hadn’t expected. He finally got on the plane and there was a delay. No explanation or apology was forthcoming from the crew. As the stew stomped by, out of frustration he muttered the words words the story documents under his breath. The stew (about 7 hours into her shift) caught the mutterings and stopped dead in her tracks, rounded with eyes blazing and said “EXCUSE ME?!?!”. Any male with a normal amount of testosterone will interpret that as an attack. He didn’t back down. She had been waiting for an excuse to use her authority for about a month and pulled the trigger.
That is as valid as any extrapolation put forward from the airline lovers.
Showing my age. I just flew back from CA and I swear I was the only one on the plane not in jeans or cutoffs, t-shirts and beach sandals. And I was hardly over dressed.
Very considerate of you.
Our leaders are insane children.
I’m glad he got the boot. He deserved it!
I don't doubt that the scenario you present could have happened. Also, I agree completely with your view on extrapolation of facts and prejudices.
Based on my experience with (a) the passengers I'm most often seated next to as a frequent business flier, (b) people who excuse their behavior with "that's how we do it in New York," and (c) those who offer "I was hung over, but I wasn't still drunk" . . . I'll be betting against you in Vegas.
But I won't laugh when you play your chips.
Having skin in a game does tend to focus you mind doesn’t it.
Don’t expect to be to Vegas anytime soon. If I do I probably won’t be gambling.
Use of the word in question is a sign of ignorance on three levels. First, it indicates lack of verbal imagination, as has often been pointed out. Second, it indicates a low cultural level.
Third, and not generally recognized, is that it communicates aggression: not humor, not affection, but plain aggression. It is a fact of primate behavior that sexual threats are used to establish dominance. Thus the dominant baboon will attempt to mount members of lesser status in his troop, whether they be male or female. In some monkey species, dominant females will do the same thing, and even have a clitoris the size of a male’s penis, adapted just for that purpose.
Humans, being a verbal species, have transfered this behavior into words. That is why the F-word is used in this seemingly nonsensical way. Although it relates to sex, its use does not express affection, or even normal sexual interest in anticipation of pleasure. Instead, it is a threat, and logically should be treated as a threat. Of course, in a place like New York, one might think that it would lose its force, but it actually never does completely.
In better days of yore, using language with anything like the F-word would justify an instant fight. It is not just a comment, or “free speech” of some sort: the F-word is a challenge. It is what have been legally considered “fighting words,” which justify a physical response. In our feminized, liberal society, this response might not today hold up in court — but it certainly justifies the airplane captain’s precaution in throwing off the foul-mouthed “children’s writer.”
Words like that can start a fight. Indeed, they probably should.
There is another reason for throwing off the foul-mouthed author. Others on the ‘plane may not enjoy his offensive speech in close quarters, where they cannot avoid him, and where passengers are obliged to sit crammed together, literally breathing each other’s air. In such circumstances a minimum of social decorum would seem to be necessary.
So, throw him off. I suppose do this at altitude (which would be the height of justice!) is not technically feasible, so he must be turned off the ‘plane before take-off.
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