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Chattanooga Times Free Press ^ | 6/13/11 | Mariann Martin

Posted on 06/13/2011 8:40:08 AM PDT by Kartographer

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This too is something to remember:"They could have survived without their supplies, Richards said. Even in the rural community where they live — with neighbors spread out between woods and pastures and the nearest store miles away — friends came by to check on them and volunteers helped clear their driveway the next day.

But their preparation made them less dependent on others during a time when so many people needed help."


Every person that's taking care of themselves is one less person that Aid Workers/National Guard who ever has to help and that in turn increases the available resources for those in real need it could even allow you to help. Preparedness isn't only about you and your family it's just as much about you not being a burden on others when you don't have to be.
1 posted on 06/13/2011 8:40:09 AM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

PING!!


2 posted on 06/13/2011 8:41:09 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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She stockpiled about 60 gallons of water in empty milk ... containers

OK folks, do NOT use old plastic milk jugs to store water. You can never get them clean of all the milk proteins and your water will rapidly become undrinkable. I suspect this person has found that out already.

3 posted on 06/13/2011 8:47:41 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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” OK folks, do NOT use old plastic milk jugs to store water. You can never get them clean of all the milk proteins and your water will rapidly become undrinkable. I “

There are plenty of uses, even in a Survival situation, for non-potable water — toilets still need to be flushed, and eating utensils (and persons) still need to be kept clean and sanitary...

I live in an area that experiences frequent power (and therefore pump) outages, and I learned, after my first time around, to keep separate stockpiles of ‘drinking water’ and ‘flushing water’....


4 posted on 06/13/2011 8:59:47 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Lurker

Perhaps you can help me on this. I have a 40 gallon hot water heater filled with 40 gallons of pure, filtered water. Why should I fill up more jugs?


5 posted on 06/13/2011 9:08:27 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (We also have a purpose, and that purpose is ... no longer to please every dictator with a vote at th)
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“She bought a three-day supply of dried beans, brown rice, oatmeal and raisins.”

Three pounds of beans and rice, a box of oatmeal and a six pack of raisins is noteworthy?


6 posted on 06/13/2011 9:09:32 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Lurker; melancholy

Melancholy and I had this exact discussion a while ago and he described a method he used wherein he was able to store water safely in milk jugs, which I had thought not possible. I always figured milk jug water could be used for washing purposes only. Maybe he’ll chime in with his method.


7 posted on 06/13/2011 9:10:05 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

How do you get the water out of the heater if there’s no water pressure?


8 posted on 06/13/2011 9:10:38 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Oh, duh, the bottom drain!


9 posted on 06/13/2011 9:11:31 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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How do you get the water out of the heater if there’s no water pressure?

Gravity.

10 posted on 06/13/2011 9:13:02 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Rebelbase

Ummm, yes.


11 posted on 06/13/2011 9:17:32 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (We also have a purpose, and that purpose is ... no longer to please every dictator with a vote at th)
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Here’s a true story.

A few years ago hub was working on our water system and said water would be off for a few hours. (Our system is a well and we fill up large tanks of water periodically from the well.)

I knew that anything DH embarks upon always takes much longer than estimated, so I filled up every available vessel in the house in the short amount of time I had. What with buckets, jugs, large pots and so on, I had just about 53 gallons of water.

We used that water very sparingly - I could wash no dishes, cooked very simply (for instance, used the water that I washed the rice with for washing hands, and then for flushing the toilet, etc), we did minimal “bucket baths” or sponge baths, flushed only for solid stuff.

After three days the water came back on, I had about 2 quarts of water left, and we and the house were filthy.

So, 40 gallons would be bare survival for a few days. You won’t have enough to really clean anything, bathe, flush the toilet more than once or twice a day if that, do any real cooking, no washing dishes, etc.

If that’s a good level of survival - at most, 3 days of extremely minimal water use, fine.

I like to have much, much more leeway than that. BTDT.


12 posted on 06/13/2011 9:30:55 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Rebelbase

I noticed that too.

If people don’t normally have some basics like that on hand anyway, they must live in NYC.


13 posted on 06/13/2011 9:35:58 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah; melancholy
Maybe he’ll chime in with his method.

I'd like to learn about it. Thank you.

14 posted on 06/13/2011 9:40:25 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Kartographer

If anyone knows where I can get an affordable water pump (hand) for my 2 inch well, please let me know!


15 posted on 06/13/2011 9:45:22 AM PDT by jpsb
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How deep is your well?


16 posted on 06/13/2011 9:48:48 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (My new business is great! I make prayer rugs w/ bombs inside. Prophets are going thru the roof!)
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To: little jeremiah

Where possible, an old fashioned hand pump in the yard can be decorative and functional. It didn’t kill grandma and grandpa and it won’t kill me. In some places county government provides testing of well water for a small fee.


17 posted on 06/13/2011 9:56:23 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Free at last, free at last, thank God almighty, I'm free at last (retired Dec 1999))
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Clean them immediately after finishing the milk. I’ve had potable water stashed in the woods for years. Carry a canteen in and pour whatever I don’t drink in to replace what I drink from jugs. That said, a lot of people would last about 12 hours in my world, so YMMV.


18 posted on 06/13/2011 9:59:16 AM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: jpsb

I would like to know as well. Our well is 600 feet deep. Back in 2002 our shallow well went dry in the drought we were experiencing at the time. We were without water for almost FOUR months. NOT a fun time.


19 posted on 06/13/2011 10:29:15 AM PDT by VirginiaMom
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Turns out it wasn’t him, it was someone else, maybe with a name beginning with “M”, who had a vacation house in, IIRC, Virginia.

Wish my memory worked better!

I think he said that he washed them with very hot water and detergent, let dry, and then filled them, and used them in the vacation house with no problem.

But I vote for non-milk containers, I’ve never been able to get them clean enough.


20 posted on 06/13/2011 10:36:00 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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