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(LIVE THREAD!) Republican Presidential Debate #2 - June 13, 2011 8pm/5pm: New Hampshire
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Posted on 06/13/2011 4:49:56 AM PDT by newzjunkey

Broadcast on: CNN

Broadcast time: 8pm EDT/5pm PDT

The Candidates:

Michele Bachmann

Bachmann is serving her 3rd full term in the U.S. House. Founder of the House Tea Party Caucus, she earned a Master of Laws degree, worked as a tax attorney, and was a foster mother for 23 teenagers. She is a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Herman Cain

Cain is the former chief executive of Godfather's Pizza and former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He lost the Georgia Republican primary for a U.S. Senate seat in 2004. He was recently the host of Atlanta-based radio show.

Newt Gingrich

Gingrich served as the 58th Speaker of the United States House of Representatives from 1995 to 1999. He represented Georgia's 6th congressional district as a Republican member from 1979 to 1999. He has a PhD in modern European history.

Ron Paul

Paul is serving his 11th full term in the U.S. House. He’s an obstetrician-gynecologist and was the Libertarian nominee for president in 1988. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008

Tim Pawlenty

Pawlenty served two terms as governor of Minnesota, from 2002 to 2010. He served in the Minnesota House from 1992 until 2002. He is the son of a truck driver.

Mitt Romney

Romney was the 70th Governor of Massachusetts (2003 to 2007) and former CEO of Bain Capital, a private equity investment firm. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008. He has an MBA (Harvard) and JD (Harvard Law).

Rick Santorum

Santorum served two terms in the U.S. House and two terms in the U.S. Senate. He became the Senate's third-ranking Republican in 2001. He was defeated for reelection in 2006.


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To: CondoleezzaProtege

The film that’s preaching to the choir? Who’s going to see that move besides the most ardent Palin supporters?


1,161 posted on 06/13/2011 10:16:07 PM PDT by ejdrapes (Go Michele!)
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To: MestaMachine

Wow once again I say are all Palin supporters this classy?


1,162 posted on 06/13/2011 10:18:33 PM PDT by ejdrapes (Go Michele!)
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To: sonic109

Can’t stand HER voice?
How about Palin with that gosh golly gee willikers thing going on..Love her politics but she sounds like a 3rd grade teacher when she talks..

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I agree. Love her politics also, but she needs to take some lessons from Bachmann when it comes to speaking and sophistication.


1,163 posted on 06/13/2011 10:20:35 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: P-Marlowe

A president can push congress to cut taxes, repeal stupid legislation like ObamaCare, Dodd/Frank, SOX and other job killing regulation. There’s a LOT the government can do to get this economy moving.


1,164 posted on 06/13/2011 10:22:21 PM PDT by ejdrapes (Go Michele!)
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To: ejdrapes

From most of what I read on NRO, they are totally in the tank for Romney.


1,165 posted on 06/13/2011 10:25:01 PM PDT by Fledermaus (As long as John Boehner is Speaker, conservatives are screwed. He's a coward and a crybaby.)
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To: MestaMachine
Your post makes no sense. I was saying that conservative media is tweeting and blogging Michele Bachmann the winner or co-winner with Romney. And asking if they are now part of the MSM since the Palin supporters meme is the MSM is pimping Bachmann. So I guess if conservative media is doing the same that means they're out to sabotage Palin?

I have no fetish with Palin. I take issue with her supporters dumping on Michele Bachmann. If they weren't afraid of Michele I don't think they'd be doing it.

1,166 posted on 06/13/2011 10:26:44 PM PDT by ejdrapes (Go Michele!)
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To: MestaMachine

No kidding! Good grief!


1,167 posted on 06/13/2011 10:27:30 PM PDT by Shelayne (We need a Netanyahu! Instead we're stuck with the "yahu".)
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To: Will88

Two words...Ed Rollins. He’s an elitist squishy GOP hack.


1,168 posted on 06/13/2011 10:27:46 PM PDT by Fledermaus (As long as John Boehner is Speaker, conservatives are screwed. He's a coward and a crybaby.)
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To: Balata

Ok, here’s something I’ve noticed about the “anybody but Palin” crowd. Their FIRST priority isn’t their country, it’s opposing Sarah. They decided they didn’t like her a LONG time ago and have lusted after every person that has shown an inkling of conservatism since.... They are so desperate for ANYONE except her, they stooped to almost pimping for anyone....and never even gave her a fair shot. However, the pro-Palin crowd has been largely supportive of ALL conservative candidates & turned on them only when there was sufficient evidence to do so.... I rarely find a pro palin person that is a Palin only person... usually their Sarah pick has been b/c they’ve compared other candidates and compared to her they fall short on many issues or the ones that matter. But b/c there are people who like her for a number of reasons, they aren’t allowed to ever criticize another conservative or they are dubbed “palinbots” or some other nonsense....

And I’m very disturbed by this trend Rush talked about the other day of conservative women not liking Palin & can’t give a reason. I have had so called conserves tell me they don’t like her b/c “she quit” or “her voice nags me”..... What the heck? just looking for an excuse to have “anybody but Palin”..... It’s disgusting.


1,169 posted on 06/13/2011 10:27:53 PM PDT by DrewsMum (There is no other NAME whereby we may be saved....JESUS!)
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To: Fledermaus

Really? I don’t get that impression at all. Yeah they endorsed him in 2008 but that’s only because he was the least bad option (and could raise a lot of money).


1,170 posted on 06/13/2011 10:28:40 PM PDT by ejdrapes (Go Michele!)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

I thought Bachmann won the debate. I really liked how she structured her answers. Quick answer, talking points somewhat related to the question, detailed answer, summary / repeat of quick answer. I didn’t see it as shallow as some did.

And she’s my 3rd favorite. One on stage, one not are my top 2.

I don’t think Bachmann will get that much of a bounce in the polls from this debate, not to pass Palin. The MSM might want to pretend that Bachmann becomes a front runner. I was impressed, likely others were too, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see her numbers up a little (2-3), maybe Cain down a tad (1-2), maybe Romney down (Taliban had to hurt a little) Every one else about the same (0-1).


1,171 posted on 06/13/2011 10:36:18 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: Persevero

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Taft

Was Robert Taft a Libertarian?

Robert Taft was the leader of the Conservatives, before Barry Goldwater. Didn’t get the Republican nomination. Came closest in 1952. Was a non-interventionist. He was not a Libertarian.


1,172 posted on 06/13/2011 10:44:10 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: newzjunkey

The best thing about the debate... I wasn’t subjugated to Weiner-gate for a couple of hours. ;-)


1,173 posted on 06/13/2011 10:52:48 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: truthfreedom

Not all isolationists are Libertarians.

However, all Libertarians are isolationists. It’s a defining characteristic of Libertarianism.

No, I don’t have any reason to believe Taft was a Libertarian.


1,174 posted on 06/13/2011 10:57:10 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: truthfreedom

Not all isolationists are Libertarians.

However, all Libertarians are isolationists. It’s a defining characteristic of Libertarianism.

No, I don’t have any reason to believe Taft was a Libertarian.


1,175 posted on 06/13/2011 10:58:01 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: truthfreedom

I thought the debate/forum was fairly even. However I thought Newt Gingrich when he spoke seemed to be with strongest expression, not that I intend to vote for Newt. It would be good if all the comments were distilled into a platform that really takes it to Obama and his enablers.


1,176 posted on 06/13/2011 11:04:18 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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Good to hear from Michele Bachmann and is a worthy candidate. She addressed most of the (legitimate) questions well.

Even though I don’t like Gingrich at all, he is a good debater (would have liked him to have to address climate change and his marital infidelity, to name just a few issues). If anybody is seriously thinking of voting for this guy, they should watch “The Real Newt Gingrich” on YouTube. This is not somebody who can beat Obama based on his integrity alone.

Romney made two horrible gaffes... one regarding turning Afghanistan back over to the Taliban forces (before he corrected himself) and the other in regards to Sharia not happening in the United States (very naive of the power of Islamic intimidation... he should look in Deerborn, Michigan). Newt really knocked-out Romney on the Muslim issue.

Herman Cain, who was my favorite and stand-out in the first debate, didn’t stand out as much this time around. Had to play defense a lot on issues like TARP and appointing a Muslim. Disappointed with his DADT response.


1,177 posted on 06/13/2011 11:05:28 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: ejdrapes
So I guess she won because she didn't make a fool of herself. Big damn deal. She will soon. I really don't give a rats ass what you or any of these establishment, so called conservative magazines say or said. Im my opinion Mrs. Backmann was shallow and pandering.
1,178 posted on 06/13/2011 11:41:50 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO but I reserve the right to be wrong...)
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To: Tennessee Nana

The question regarding Barack Obama’s qualifications to be elected president did NOT concern his parents and where they were born. If it did he would not be president today, since his father was not a U.S. citizen. It did concern where HE was born and whether he was born in Hawaii as a natural born citizen or not. Go back and read the Constitution concerning this matter-—it doesn’t mention a word about one’s father or mother.

The question about John McCain’s qualifications concerned the same issue. Since he was born in the Panama Canal Zone many thought that he was not qualified to be elected either and questioned whether he was a natural born citizen. His parents had nothing to do with him being qualified.


1,179 posted on 06/13/2011 11:56:23 PM PDT by dupree
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To: manc

Actually, the phrase originated in a letter, dated October 7, 1801, written by Thomas Jefferson and addressed to the Baptist Association of Danbury Connecticut.

Here is the link:

http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=65


1,180 posted on 06/14/2011 12:30:00 AM PDT by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !When a majority of the American)
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