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1 posted on 06/11/2011 1:36:36 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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So, what are Bachman and Perry accused of doing/saying? I haven’t heard.

Frankly, I am more concerned about beating back Mitt Romney and not because of his religion, either.

Mitt Romney is going to use the attacks on his religion to discredit the religious right and he is already doing so. By discrediting the religious right, he discredits most of the Palin supporters, as irrelevant.

WA state Republicans are setting up to endorse Romney, I’m pretty sure.


33 posted on 06/11/2011 2:17:14 PM PDT by Eva
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Ms. Medina outed herself as a conspiracy nut...

Your writing belongs in the "fiction" section...

36 posted on 06/11/2011 2:21:34 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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Wow, really reaching with this scenario. Palin is not even a declared candidate. Of course the liberals try to destroy any Republican who might dare to challenge their boy Obama, so they get 2 for 1 in this article trying to “destroy” Perry and Bachmann all at once. Nice try, but laughable. Of course all the while Obama is destroying his chances by screwing things up worse than LBJ and Carter did. The economy will tell the tale in 2012 and Perry arguably has the best economic record to run on of anybody in the USA. If he runs, he will be formidable to say the least.


37 posted on 06/11/2011 2:21:34 PM PDT by decisis
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I have to agree that Bachmann and Perry certainly have a right to run for the GOP nomination for president and that, in politics, alliances are often broken for strategic purposes. No Republican politician requires Sarah Palin's permission to run. I get that. However, I'm dismayed by the apparent disloyalty being demonstrated. Michele Bachmann hired Ed Rollins as her campaign manager and he instantly lashed out at Sarah Palin - while Bachmann remained silent. That soured me on Michele Bachmann, who, up until that point, I had considered a fallback candidate if Palin decided not to run. I'm withholding judgment on Rick Perry because he hasn't declared and hasn't made negative comments about Sarah Palin.

I see this situation developing because, as you noted, despite the phony Democrat polls and media happy talk about how great Obama's chances are for re-election (running on - what?) he is doomed to defeat. I view the Bachmann and Perry candidacies as sheer ambition on their part and understandable, to a point, although the Bachmann camp disparaging Palin remains problematic for me because it was unnecessary. I stated in an earlier post on another thread that I suspect Michele Bachmann is angling to be Romney's V.P. and that the GOP hierarchy is encouraging her as a means to thwart Palin, who they intensely dislike.

I believe that part of the problem is the fact that nobody knows what Sarah Palin will do. If she decides to sit this one out, these other conservatives will obviously vie for her endorsement and her help in fund raising as well as campaigning. An ambitious politician sees time being wasted and in Perry's case, the opportunity to run for president opening up - and they are not about to let it pass them by. Bashing Palin and showing disloyalty to her after she helped them get re-elected is troubling. However, I'm confident that if Sarah Palin chooses to run, they'll throw their support to her and all will be well because, once ambition has run it's course, we all know that defeating Obama is the real goal. I doubt Sarah Palin will be distracted from that goal, should she decide to run, as I hope she will.

38 posted on 06/11/2011 2:22:23 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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Brice,

I sympathize with what you are saying, but let’s be clear about something.

Palin has been too opaque as to her intentions. When she plays the “I don’t need a title to serve” game, that gives others an opening.

This is Palin’s own damn fault. Now she’s going to have to fight these people for bandwidth, because she jinked around about ramping up her game.

Palin has no one to blame but herself, and let’s be clear, both Perry and Bachmann have the right to compete.

Bachmann is a Potemkin villiage candidate who is working for Romney, but she has the right to compete.

Best,

Chris


41 posted on 06/11/2011 2:28:38 PM PDT by section9
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When did Palin declare she is running for the presidency? Most people think she will not. If she's going to do it and expect others to defer to her, she needs to be announcing.

Bachmann has indicated she is running. Is she supposed to wait for Palin? It is time for Palin to make a move if she's going to run. The others have no reason to wait.

42 posted on 06/11/2011 2:29:10 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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Between the three of them; I would vote for Sarah without hesitation.


45 posted on 06/11/2011 2:34:54 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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On KOAI (San Antonio) they were reporting last week that Perry would not run if Palin ran. I assume they based this on SOMETHING.


46 posted on 06/11/2011 2:37:00 PM PDT by Anima Mundi (If you try to fail and you succeed , what have you just done?)
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Bachmann and Perry...Turning on Palin?

No, that's divisive hype, mostly driven by Paulbots and Obama trolls, don't fall for it.

Beyond that, Bachmann made a boneheaded move bringing in Rollins. If she hasn't dumped him already, she should.

Perry and Palin could actually make a formidable team, such an eventuality wouldn't bother me...

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49 posted on 06/11/2011 2:46:06 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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Followed your story a bit until you claimed how Debbie Medina was the darling of Texas Cobnservatives.

FYI, Miss Deb was a “shooting Star” or “flash in the pan” and did get a lot of short term attention UNTIL she opened her mouth and showed us all that Libertarian Deb was no more than a ronpaul type nutcase. Her shooting star was just like the ones we can see on any beautiful Texas night, gone in an instant.


50 posted on 06/11/2011 2:52:30 PM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: Brices Crossroads; everyone


POSITIVELY PALIN!


LINK: APRIL 16, 2011 (To all who haven't been paying close attention - she literally announced her intention to run on this date, right here!)


"We're flat broke, but he thinks these solar shingles and really fast trains will magically save us.


So now he's shouting, all aboard the bullet train to bankruptcy."


Well, Mr. President, we’re not going to get used to it. Not now. Not ever.

You ignored us in 2010. But you cannot ignore us in 2012.

Mr. President, you and your cohorts threw all the hatred and all the violence you could at these good folks in Madison, Wisconsin. But you lost here.

And Madison, you defended the 2010 electoral mandate. You are heroes, you are patriots, and when the history of this Tea Party Movement is written, what you accomplished here will not be forgotten.

Your historic stand brought down the curtain on the last election. And the 2012 election begins here.

We will take the courage and the integrity that you showed all of America. We will take it and we will win back our country!

God has shed His grace on thee, America. We will not squander what we have.

We will fight for America! And it starts here in Madison, Wisconsin!

It starts here! It starts now! What better place than the state that hosts the Super Bowl champs to call out the liberal left and let them know:

Mr. President, game on!


51 posted on 06/11/2011 2:52:57 PM PDT by onyx (If you truly like and support Sarah Palin and want on her BUSY Ping List, let me know!)
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I appreciate your POV, but I think, in the end, it won’t matter. Let them run.

It will take $100 million to win the nomination. Sarah Palin can afford to wait a few months to get in. Even if Bachmann and Perry raise $10 million/month each, once Palin enters, she’ll not only swamp them donation-wise, their funding will precipitously dry up from that point going forward. Not only that, but once Palin makes inroads into the race, she’ll make inroads with their supporters, as well.

Of the candidates left in the race, I only see two of them raising $100 million for the primary. One can primarily self-finance that amount, the other is Sarah Palin.


54 posted on 06/11/2011 3:02:41 PM PDT by ziravan (Are you better off now than you were 7 Trillion Dollars ago?)
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While I freely concede that both Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry have a right to run for President, it is impossible to overlook the fact that their recent benefactress, Sarah Palin, is rolling out her own Presidential campaign at the same time.

Are you actually saying that the rest of the GOP candidates should wait it out to see if Palin's running? Seriously?

Also, what's this "benefactress" bs? Did Perry and Bachman never win election without Palin's endorsement?

Where do you get this immature thinking from?

55 posted on 06/11/2011 3:09:16 PM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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Valid observations, but I'd like to intercede with an alternative play out of events... What if...

What if Palin is not running, only running interference?

What if she's keeping the media on her "not a campaign because I haven't announced" campaign, building support in a general sense for conservative values and, in the end she'll publicly endorse one or both of these two?

Personally, I'm firmly in the camp that loves Sarah Palin and all she stands for but... I believe she's far more valuable as a king maker rather than a candidate.

I can see this playing out differently than has been described here and I hope the players involved are truly that strategic.

60 posted on 06/11/2011 3:40:59 PM PDT by Lloyd227 (Class of 1998 (let's all help the Team McCain spider monkeys decide how to moderate))
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I’m not sure what you’re trying to say.

Your article is disjointed and flabbergasting. You might have done better allowing your analysis to cool for a week or so and then editing, instead of running it hot off the emotive press.

Now don’t go getting your hackles in an uproar. I’ve done the same thing many, many times. I’m just offering measured criticism.


62 posted on 06/11/2011 3:45:11 PM PDT by sergeantdave (The democrat party is a seditious organization that must be outlawed)
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Your premise is flawed. Palin is not rolling out a campaign.

A family bus tour and independent documentary film are not a campaign.

78 posted on 06/11/2011 4:45:28 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Don't screw up the 2012 nomination.)
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There is nothing wrong if Bachmann and Perry decide to test the waters. Nothing wrong at all.

But I will say this. The people they need to win are the same people who like Palin, and they aren’t going to successfully woo them by attacking her. Their best shot is to present themselves as the best person running to achieve the things that they and Palin and the “tea party” Repubs believe in. They can’t win by attacking her, it will only turn off the people who support her which is a large chunk of the rank and file. Rollins isn’t smart enough to know that but Perry and Bachmann should or they aren’t smart enough to win.


83 posted on 06/11/2011 4:53:04 PM PDT by marron
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What Leftist rag did you get this propaganda from?

The writer argues that none of Palin’s allies can run for President without betraying her. So Palin can be the only conservative, and everyone else running has to be a RINO.

Then what if Palin does not run? It would be all RINOs. That is the clear agenda of the article writer.


84 posted on 06/11/2011 4:55:01 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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Palin is too timid. Does not promote the GOP platform. She will be the Ross Perot of 2012.
Perry 2012


88 posted on 06/11/2011 5:07:33 PM PDT by JustAnotherOne
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Late to the debate, however, can you provide a direct quote or action, other than ‘thinking’ about running for president that Perry has stated.

Bachmann has clearly turned. This is obvious with the hiring of Rollins and her silence after his disparaging remarks against Palin.

I have not seen that out of Perry. The only thing that has been publicized is the fact he is ‘thinking’ about running.

Thx


92 posted on 06/11/2011 5:26:46 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman ("...; because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee,... "Hosea 4:6)
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