Why Women Hate Sarah, Day Two (Rush Limbaugh, June 9, 2011)

RUSH: So what do you think the biggest subject in my e-mail today is? No, it's not Weiner. No. It's the caller yesterday, Annette on Palin being a "10" and that's why women hate her. I can't tell you how much e-mail response I got on that. Friends of mine I haven't heard from in a couple years are weighing in on this -- and there is a consensus that Annette's right. The consensus is that women hate her 'cause she's good-looking. It's basically that -- and there's a story here in the Washington Post: "Conservative Women Enthusiastic About Bachmann and Palin." It's a story by Kellyanne Conway, the pollsterette who's gone out and found: The babes are lookers (which is part of it). Anyway, it means we will continue to discuss this just a little bit today because it's one of these seat-of-your-pants moments -- fly-by moments -- on the program and it's ignited response unlike any recently. I can't think of the last time something generated this kind of outpouring. Just stuns me. You know, I got my finger on the pulse of all this stuff.

I go through the news and sometimes I just scratch my head. You want to hear one? Here's a typical e-mail I got: "Rush, I was reminded of it on your show today..." I'm joining this e-mail in progress. "I was reminded of it on your show today when the woman called to explain the antipathy to Sarah Palin as coming from woman who were below being '8s' on a scale of 1-to-10. Rush, I think that's close but not quite right. Politics, media, satire, all the normal stuff is in there. But what really ticks many off about Sarah Palin is that these attractive, she loves men, and her man loves her. That is what drives 'em nuts. That closes the trifecta. That's the trifecta that stirs the outrage: That her man loves her. Hillary is seen kindly as a victim almost because she's in a bad marriage -- and her husband has a well-known history of running around on her."

RUSH: To the phones and we're gonna start Salem, New Hampshire, with Judy. Judy, welcome. Great to have you with us. Hi.

CALLER: Hi, Rush. Nice to speak with you. I hope I'm okay. I've been sitting while I was waiting for you, so I hope I make it through the conversation.

RUSH: Well, it's the same thing. I'm sitting here, too. So we're at risk together.

CALLER: (chuckles) Hey, I wanted to call you, I wanted to let you know why I, as a woman, don't care for Sarah Palin as a candidate. I agree with her politics. But she is just too much drama in her presentation. She's just too much of a woman, you know, as far as --

RUSH: You're giving me... You're setting me up to get in trouble here. She's too much of a woman, meaning too much drama?

CALLER: No, it's the way she presents things. It's always to the extreme. ... I wish I had a better way to explain it but it's too much theatrics in her presentation.

RUSH: Oh, I get it. She's an actress, too? When you say that she's too much drama, are you saying she's not genuine, that she's...?

CALLER: Oh, no, but I think that's just how women get. They get very excitable, that high-pitched voice. It's all... I don't know if you've ever worked for a woman. It's the same kind of thing, just too much.

CALLER: No. You contrast that with Rick Santorum you had on yesterday? Loved it. I've never heard him before. Just very matter of fact, but yet with passion. Just the same kind of passion Sarah has but not drama.

RUSH: So even where the country is right now, even where it is -- and it's not in a good place, and we've got major problems, and who is going to lead this country in the future is really a crucial thing, and even you have just said her policies are fine, right?

CALLER: If I had... (sigh) I wouldn't vote for her in a primary if I had another very conservative alternative.

CALLER: Yes, you are close. There's that kind of edginess to her voice and her presentation, and I've seen her live. I went to see her last year on the campaign trail. Loved it. Except, like I said, she's just --

RUSH: To Spring Hill, Tennessee. Diana, great to have you on the EIB Network. Hello.

CALLER: Thanks, Rush. Thanks for having me. I'm a first-time caller, a Rush Baby, and I'm raising almost five Rush Babies of my own now.

CALLER: But I wanted to call because I was having a conversation with my parents last night and we were trying to articulate what it is that women hate about Sarah Palin, and my mom kind of hit it on the nose. She said, "Really it's just because she's not only a mom -- and a mom of a special needs child -- she's a wife, she's a politician, she's a hunter, she's a TV show person, she does practically every sport. She's smart, and with all these things together, she's still feminine and she's still pretty, and what's not to hate?" (giggles) I mean, I don't personally... I'm a conservative and I actually love her a lot. I don't think I would vote for her because she's not my favorite candidate, but I would still if she was, you know, obviously primary [winner], I would vote for her, but I just think that's why women have a problem with her.

RUSH: Do you...? I have to ask you a question. I really... I appreciate you're a Rush Baby and all that. Do you understand how what you just said sounds?

RUSH: You have just said here she's a woman that basically, to sum it up the way you put it, "has everything and does everything. Is it any wonder she's hated?"

RUSH: What the hell has happened? If we're not...? I don't know how to say it. If we are going to be threatened by -- if we are going to attempt to destroy -- achievers, the people who are successful --

RUSH: -- simply because we're jealous of it? I mean, I know that's human nature, that that happens, but I'm listening to this and I'm hoping it's not widespread thinking. This is the one time I hope that the cross-section I'm getting in my e-mail that I'm hearing on the phones don't -- I mean don't be offended here, I'm hoping it doesn't -- represent most thinking in the country.

CALLER: I think you're totally right, and I really hope that people and women especially don't feel that way, but just giving you the woman's perspective that, you know, women can be catty and women can be very jealous.

RUSH: -- and phone calls, I'm starting to think here that conservative women are just like liberal women in that they're inclined to vote on superficial and emotional things first. I never thought that was the case.

CALLER: Rush, you know what I think? I think that women that don't know very much about politics and women that don't really know what's going on and specifics will be more apt to judge on emotion and on things as catty as that, but I do think that women who are a little more intellectual, they know what they want in a candidate, and things like that; I think that that kind of woman is gonna vote not based on emotion, but based on brains and based on they're the best candidate overall.

RUSH: You know what I think? Snerdley, we're gonna have to revise something here: In order to criticize Palin you're gonna have to do have a picture on file here if you're a woman and you want to criticize face you're gonna have to have a picture on file, because the theory's been advance the out there, Diana -- and this is from Annette yesterday -- that most of this is due to women being jealous of Sarah Palin being prettier than they are.

CALLER: Hmm. Yeah, that's very possible. I think it's everything. I think she is just definitely Superwoman. She's the modern day Superwoman.

CALLER: She does it all, and she does some of the things that men do somewhat better than some men as well, and look at the things that she's done hunting. Have you ever seen her TV show the Alaska one?

CALLER: I watched a couple of them, but she's killing these elk and she's rock climbing these mountains in Alaska, and it's like, "Oh, my gosh, this is amazing!" So to normal people, normal moms like me she is just amazing, she can do everything. So it's --

RUSH: Okay, let me ask: How come women never hated Hillary Clinton for being beautiful and having the perfect husband and having...? Uh, never mind. That didn't happen.

CALLER: (giggles) Yeah, I didn't think any of those things about her so I'm probably the wrong person to ask.

RUSH: Well, but I still want to ask. I ask it in a somewhat painful way to make a point. Do we want female candidates we're gonna raise up because we feel sorry for them, because they're victimized somehow? Okay, Hillary deserves it? I'm telling you something. I have made this very clear. In Hillary's case, what qualified Hillary Clinton to ever be president? What was it, folks, seriously now? What was it? I'll tell you what it was, on the left side. It wasn't policy, it wasn't anything substantive. The reason Hillary Clinton was qualified is because there she is was at Wellesley and at Yale and she met Clinton, and they got married -- and you know what happened. She subordinated her life. She moved to the sticks. Arkansas! God, it's like moving to Mississippi!

It's like living next door to James Earl Ray -- and Hillary did it; and while she's in Arkansas her husband is catting around with floozies, and he's dropping dollar bills in trailer parks and still she hung in there! He humiliated her, and she still hung in there -- and then they get to the White House, and then there was all that garbage that happened with Monica Lewinsky and the blue dress and the further humiliation -- and Hillary was said to be presidential timbre and quality because she was owed it, that she had paid the dues for Bill Clinton. She had essentially eaten an excrement sandwich every day of her life since she met that guy in order to make it possible for him to get where he went, and after all of that look what he did to her. So we admire Hillary Clinton for that. We feel sorry for Hillary Clinton for that. Liberal women feel sorry for Hillary Clinton -- and there's a lot of other factors I don't dare mention.

I'd be right on the money with them (I'd be 150% right), but there's no way I can win mentioning them. (interruption) Don't goad me, Snerdley! I will not mention them! I don't care... (interruption) Nope. But you know what I'm talking about here. The point is -- and she's not alone. Hillary's not alone. Feminist women, liberal Democrat women are viewed as deserving of high posts because of some victim status that they have acquired throughout their lives. They've either been mistreated somewhere along the line because of this factor or that factor or what have you -- and, of course, their liberalism is a requirement. That's a given and so forth. But I listen to this criticism of Sarah Palin, and some of it is simply repeated drivel from the mainstream media -- and now I'm hearing that she's not electable because she's too good-looking and her husband loves her and all this kind of stuff.

CALLER: Oh, hi. Okay. I just wanted to call and tell you that I love Sarah Palin, and I just am really saddened by these women who don't.

CALLER: Ohhhh. Well, I don't think I'm bad looking. I'm 63 years old and I swim one and three-quarters of a mile three times a week, and I'm in pretty good shape. (laughing)

CALLER: (laughing) Well, no. I really do think she's a beautiful lady, but most of all I love her because she loves America, and I like her common sense policies that she talks about with the environment -- and she doesn't like Obamacare, and I don't, either.

CALLER: I just think she would be a terrific president, and I hope she runs, and I will vote for her.

RUSH: Okay. I appreciate that. I have been struck by all this. I was explaining to... Well, I got a flash note here from Levin, my good buddy F. Lee, who was listening to these women call and trash Palin and so forth. We were sharing observations here -- and again, this is anecdotal. It's by no means scientific. It's a small, small sample here. But the women that are e-mailing me and calling, present caller excluded, are really making the decisions on Palin based on emotional reactions that they're having to her or other sort of...I don't know, surface type observations, and what's always struck me about that, at this particular point in time, among conservative women...

You know, the soccer moms, for example, were all liberal women. You remember the soccer mom? TIME Magazine actually created the soccer mom. I don't know that there actually ever was one. They found one to put on the cover, but the soccer mom was essentially a middle class white woman who was overwhelmed with the duties of motherhood and being a wife, but Bill Clinton made her think it was worth it. She believed that Bill Clinton cared more about her welfare than her own husband did. That was the media-created definition of a "soccer mom." Get up and get the kids breakfast, then get 'em to school, then clean the house, then whatever. The never-ending day of domestic activities that kept piling up, going to the grocery store, doing this, taking the dog to the vet, whatever it was.

Picking the kids up after school, taking them to soccer practice, taking to piano practice, whatever it was. Fixing dinner, and then lug head husband shows up, unappreciative of all of it, and Clinton came along -- feeling their pain, understanding their plight, making a inflict appeal to 'em -- and somehow supporting and voting for Clinton was a way out of that horrible situation, or at least a way of dealing with it, because there was somebody in power who could. That was the concoction, the soccer mom -- and conservative women never fell for that. A conservative woman would never be a soccer mom. The soccer mom was always a caricature of liberal women. Now here we are at a genuine crossroads for our country's future. We have an election coming up that is in the top five of important since the country's founding.

We have had 2-1/2 years of Obama with Obamacare, the destruction of the US economy. (interruption) Yeah, the soccer moms thought that Clinton loved them more than their husband did! He cared more about them than their husband did, exactly. That was the whole point. It was a way for the media to construct a caricature of Clinton that made him attractive, and it was easy to overlook all of his womanizing and lying and all, 'cause at the end of the day he cared and he understood. But it was all a concoction. You fast-forward to today: The Tea Party has effervesced out of nothing. There's no leader. There is nobody banging a drum. There is no single person inspiring the Tea Party to do what it did. It's made up of people largely who had never been politically tough.

They voted maybe but they'd never gone to a town hall meeting and they've certainly never gone to Washington and joined some kind of a protest -- and in the midst of all of this, we have a candidate out there, Sarah Palin, who, whatever else she is, is without question a conservative. I don't care whatever else people might think she is, including the "dumb" and "stupid" that the people have attached to her because the media has. The future of this country is all about having people in power who genuinely reflect and share our cultural, social, moral, and political values -- and to hear conservatives just automatically reject one of them for emotional, specious reasons surprises me given how serious things are right now. I asked myself, "Could a Margaret Thatcher get today's Republican Party nomination?" Well, I would like to think so. Snerdley, is out there saying, "Without question." I would like to think so, but given the Republican establishment, and given the Republican operatives, and the attitudes of some conservative women, I don't know.

I think it's an open question, but from what we've heard -- and again it's a small sample, it's anecdotal, we cannot say that what we've heard here is representative sample of American thinking or cross-country American thinking -- it does appear that where Palin is concerned, the emotional and superficial is enough to disqualify her in the midst of how serious things are. Despite the fact that she is, from top to bottom, satisfactory on the conservative side of the issue dial. Maybe even more so. Now, I'm not endorsing her. Don't misunderstand. (sigh) I'm probably not making myself as clear as I would like to be on this, but it just surprises me that as serious as things are and as crucial as the next election is, to just automatically reject somebody who issue-wise is pretty close to what we want for other reasons makes me wonder just how serious people take the circumstances that we find ourselves in -- and maybe they don't think it's as serious as I do.

CALLER: Thank you, Rush. Just to let you know, I am officially not a seminar caller, so I wanted to make sure you knew that.

CALLER: You asked why do so many women dislike Sarah Palin, and I have a thought. In my opinion it's not her looks. I think it's because Sarah is comfortable in her own skin. She has self-confidence so she's not afraid to fail, and I think that's very intimidating to a lot of women. It's funny, you were talking about this a minute ago but she almost seems to have a male perspective -- you know, that logic versus emotion.

CALLER: If my husband's listening he's gonna shoot me, but I mean it as a compliment. The way she thinks reminds me of my husband. He has this I-am-who-I-am kind of attitude. You know, "If you like me, great; if not, it's your problem."

RUSH: You're right. Self-confidence and self-assuredness rubs people the wrong way because most people aren't.

CALLER: I she exudes that. I think she has it through and through, and that's very good.

RUSH: I've been told from the early days of this program that that's why the few women that don't like me, don't. It's because nobody is supposed to be as sure of themselves as I am. "Nobody! You're just supposed to have some doubt. Nobody's supposed to be that self-assured. That rubs 'em the wrong way." I don't know. It's an interesting psychological analysis, which is not over. I'm sure this is gonna continue.

I cut out a couple of paragraphs that had nothing to do with Palin so it reads cleaner, Rush is known to stray.

If you go to the very last statement Rush says that women who don't like him don't like Palin for the same reason, they dont like others that are so self confident. Rush seeing Palin in himself tells us alot.

How about the idiot man who said to Rush “I forgot, you are off the Oxycontin.” Pansy liberal.

4 posted on 06/09/2011 8:28:37 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')

I heard that too! Ruah never reacted so I’m not sure he caught that slur.

We are (the country) so infected with these maggots, I’m not sure what the answer is.

6 posted on 06/09/2011 8:31:05 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman ("...; because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee,... "Hosea 4:6)

This is just crap.

If a man doesn’t like one of the male candidates do we get to talk about jealousy and cat fights?

If a man doesn’t like one of the male candidates do we get to talk about jealousy and cat fights?

No, because a man isn't a woman with a penis.

You betcha but I listened to this exchange.

I need to try to go to sleep early so that I can call Rush to talk about Sarah Palin. These women callers are getting repetitious and I have important things to say!

I tell myself this almost every night, but I don’t listen to myself...LOL.

10 posted on 06/09/2011 8:35:39 PM PDT by onyx (If you truly like and support Sarah Palin and want on her BUSY Ping List, let me know!)

“No, because a man isn’t a woman with a penis. “

You mean like Anthony Weiner?

I am in favor of women having the right to vote. This right is well established in the law of our land.

But I think we should spend a few hundred million dollars each election, by offering all women a $50 gift certificate at their local shopping mall in return for a voluntary waiver of their right to vote.

It doesn’t matter if women who never vote anyway sign up for the $50, resulting in a cost of a few hundred million more. The benefit to our country would be more than worth it.

12 posted on 06/09/2011 8:38:15 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (According to PDSers, anyone who doesn't hate Palin must be a Palin worshipper.)

When a conservative woman tells me she doesn’t like Sarah Palin, I ask her why. She can never give me an answer and gets snotty right away. I’m not sure it’s jealousy, but there isn’t anything reasonable about the female reaction to Sarah. If the person just cited a policy or stance that Sarah holds that she disagrees with, I’d be satisfied, but that is never the case.

>> RUSH: Well, it’s the same thing. I’m sitting here, too. So we’re at risk together.

Rush is great. He is the kindest media personality I can think of.

“I’m not sure what the answer is.”

Harvest them for body parts is all I can think of.

16 posted on 06/09/2011 8:40:11 PM PDT by Gator113 ("GAME ON." I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)

“....because a man isn’t a woman with a penis.”

Well, it didn’t used to be that way. LOL

18 posted on 06/09/2011 8:42:49 PM PDT by Gator113 ("GAME ON." I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)

RE “You betcha but I listened to this exchange. I need to try to go to sleep early so that I can call Rush to talk about Sarah Palin. These women callers are getting repetitious and I have important things to say!”

‘You betcha’ LOL, I have heard that someplace before.

So you are not one of those women that hate Palin for her self confidence?

19 posted on 06/09/2011 8:46:11 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')

If a man doesn't like one of the male candidates do we get to talk about jealousy and cat fights?

Nope.

Stereotypically, women are catty about women of whom they are jealous.

Stereotypes come from somewhere...

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