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To: MegaSilver

They hate school because at times they are forced to do things they don’t particularly want to do. Sort of like the rest of life.


2 posted on 06/08/2011 9:26:56 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

Yeah, both authors missed the point. Nobody likes anyplace they HAVE to go. Even if you love your job at some point in the morning preparations you don’t want to go, because you have to. We could turn schools into the most entertaining and rewarding building on the planet, as long as kids have to go they’ll hate it.


9 posted on 06/08/2011 9:38:33 AM PDT by discostu (Come on Punky, get Funky)
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To: La Lydia

‘Going to school’ is work.

Most people don’t like work. It is needed.

We must work, then we can eat.

Having said that, choice & competition would go a long way towards improving school services, making them more tolerable, and giving students with different personalities different options that fit them.

Not all students are destined for law school. Some will do well and excel in a lucrative trade or service area (auto tech, cyber-security, nursing).

I teach full time at a community college, economics classes, btw.


39 posted on 06/08/2011 1:46:04 PM PDT by 4Liberty (88% of Americans are NON-UNION. We value honest, peaceful Free trade-NOT protectionist CARTELS)
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To: La Lydia
La Lydia,

Institutional schools **waste** enormous amounts of the child's precious time!

And...Where are the studies that definitively separate out what is learned in the classroom from that which is learned due to the parents and child's efforts in the HOME??? Where are the studies that prove schools work? How much learning is really due to **afterschooling**??? We spend ( on average) $13,000 a year per child and there are NO studies that actually **PROVE** that it is the prison-like government institutional schools that teach children anything at all! Nearly all of what a child learns could be entirely due to his own efforts and that of his parents!

My homeschoolers rarely spent more than 2 hours a day in formal ( at the kitchen table) schooling. The rest of the day they were free to play. Having watched this important activity I am now convinced that play, both large muscle activities and fine motor skills, are a **vital** part of childhood. It was through play that they learned how to direct intense concentration for hours, days, weeks, and even years, on a singular project.

Gradually their play became their adult work!

All three finished all general college courses and Calculus III by the age of 15. Two earned B.S. degrees in mathematics by the age of 18. The oldest became world class athlete and represented the U.S. in competitions around the world. He worked for a few years for our church in Eastern Europe and speaks Russian fluently. Although he attended college part-time he will earn his masters in accounting at an age typical of those who have been imprisoned for their schooling. All of the children are outstanding ballroom dancers. All play an instrument. All sing in the church choir. One is now the pianist for her congregation.

43 posted on 06/08/2011 2:23:53 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: La Lydia
They hate school because at times they are forced to do things they don’t particularly want to do. Sort of like the rest of life.

This reminds me of the essay about Tiger Mothers (Asian mothers). When kids complain about being made to practice an instrument, the mothers force them to continue because NOTHING is fun until you MASTER it! (Interesting essay if you haven't read it!)

I believe that all kids hate school at some point, especially if they are frustrated at not being able to do something they want to do. For instance, I teach children with special education students in middle school to read. In 6th grade, universally they HATE reading, with a passion. Of course they do! Reading is actually painful to them. It takes a whole lot of patience and practice for them to master this skill. By 8th grade, most of them don't love reading, but at least they like it, and they are proud when they read in class out loud.

But one question...since when is what a kid with an underdeveloped frontal lobe the one 'in charge' of what should happen to them? What happened to the adults being in charge? Curiously, I don't remember my parents talking about how their parents 'cared' about anything they wanted.

54 posted on 06/08/2011 7:44:01 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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