Posted on 06/06/2011 6:28:18 PM PDT by RobinMasters
The recently released immigration file for Barack Obama Sr. indicates the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service had doubts he and Obama's mother were married.
While Ann Dunham may have sought Obama Sr. as her husband and the father of her child, the record suggests the two never lived together as a married couple.
As WND reported, there's no record of Ann Dunham's whereabouts during the last six months of her pregnancy.
Moreover, within weeks of the baby's birth, Dunham left Honolulu with her infant son and traveled to Seattle, where she enrolled in night courses at the University of Washington. She did not return to Honolulu until after Barack Obama Sr. left Hawaii in September 1962 to attend graduate courses at Harvard.
The INS file shows that Barack Obama Sr. was not faithful to Dunham, even when the two were in Hawaii at the same time.
Instead, the documentation supports the conclusion that Obama Sr. and Dunham took part in a sham marriage that the Kenyan student thought might help him extend his visa and remain in the United States to continue his education.
Economic necessity and his desire to complete his studies as soon as possible forced Obama Sr. to remain in Honolulu during the summer months, both to take summer classes and to work part-time.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
I will join you brother... if that day ever comes... but I pray it does not.
LLS
So do I, but in my heart of hearts, I believe we will be living in the Road Warrior scenario before this is over. God, I hope I’m wrong.
If you have to pick up a gun before you begin your fight, you’re not fighting hard enough.
I, like many here, have been fighting against this stupidity for a long time now. Wanna join us?
Free Republic Road Warriors... kind of has a nice ring to it.
LLS
I want the Aussie Ford Falcon with the blown Cleveland ;)
Senator McCarthy knew it... and he tried to do something about it... and as Anne Coulter says, “McCarthy was right”... and he was destroyed because he dared to speak out. Well millions of us are speaking out and as Rush says... this next election is about what kind of country we are going to be... a socialist/communist nation in the image of some European failures... or a Free Market nation of Capitalist Freedom and Liberty. Stop them now... so that we do not have to STOP them later.
No one wants war... no sane person could ever "want" war... in the Soviet Union, it took civilians rising up against the Kremlin to bring freedom to Russia... too bad they pi$$ed it all away. I do not intend to watch America pi$$ it all away... and that is why it is so important that we all stay engaged and nominate someone that will actually do ALL of the hard and unpleasant things that are going to have to be done to save this republic and see to it that he final option does not take place. The America that I know and love will not surrender without a fight. She never has and we will NOT start as long as I draw breath!
LLS
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LLS
I didn't say he wasn't. I still consider it a possibility, but I don't regard what has been presented as PROOF that this occurred. Had Obama produced an Image file that shows the Hawaiian Bureaucrats certifying his document as "ORIGINAL" record on file, then I would buy it. Since they put those weasel words on it, I still think it's fishy. The document presented so far could be the result of a Judge's directive during Ann's 1964 divorce.
Birth in Canada or Washington actually makes more sense in some ways. I find the notion that a young unmarried pregnant girl getting sent off to live with an Aunt to be perfectly reasonable. Especially if she is carrying the child of her dad's best friend.
I know full well what the difference is. I wanted to illustrate the absurdity of trying to claim that an image file was "certified" by Hawaii. It was not.
As the the paper document, he showed a physical copy to reporters, who attested to the fact that it is signed, sealed and certified.
Given how reporters have a tendency to fellate Obama at every opportunity, pardon me if I suspect they didn't look too hard. But let's say for the sake of argument, that other people HAVE seen a certified document from Hawaii. If it looks like what he's posted on line, it still doesn't establish proof of anything because the bureaucrats haven't certified it as a copy of an ORIGINAL. Till they do, they've left the legal door open for it to be an amended copy of the original record. (which very well may have been a "born at home" affidavit.)
You may be willing to accept whatever this greasy conman presents at face value, but I wouldn't believe him if he said the sun was shining, without corroboration from an independent source.
http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/08/22/confirmed-stanley-ann-dunham-began-studies-in-september-1961-not-august/
It looks like you are correct about this and I am wrong. (I can and will admit i'm wrong when i'm wrong.) But that was only HALF of the proof that she was there in August. The OTHER half of the proof that she was there in August was the testimony of her friend Susan Blake. Blake said she remembers it specifically because of some other event that occurred at the time. (I found it. )
"4. Susan had gone on vacation to Santa Cruz in summer of '61, had returned mid August because she remembered the fires around Santa Cruz at that time which caused her to return home. Soon after she was back, her mother told her that Stanley was coming to visit. Stanley had the newborn Barack Obama, roughly 3 weeks old. To Susan's best recollection it was sometime around Aug. 25th to Aug 30th. "
Yeah, I think i'm just going to ignore you from now on. Can you spell N-o-n-S-e-q-u-i-t-u-r?
There was an article On American Thinker a month or so ago which pretty much laid out the difficulty of going to Kenya, and why it was virtually impossible. Let me see if I can find it. (Here it is.)
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/04/why_obama_was_not_born_in_keny.html
Who paid the flight to Seattle?
My guess would be Madelyn Dunham or Frank Davis. Stanley Ann going to Seattle begs the question, Why? She could have gone to school in Hawaii. Her mother could have helped her look after the baby. It makes aboslutely no sense for her to go to Seattle AFTER having the baby. It makes plenty of sense for her to have gone BEFORE having the baby.
Then why can't a marriage document be found? Both Parties are dead. If the state will release the divorce document, why do they say they can't find a Marriage document?
I'll give you a hint: it doesn't mean citizenship by birth.
The comment I made was regarding whether or not 14th amendment citizenship could be taken away. I said that according to Roger v. Bellei, it could.
I would say you are the one who is having reading problems.
A lot of his responses regarding the birth certificate are along the line of "Who you gonna believe? Me or your lying eyes? " :)
That is simply not true.
And you know this how? I know the exact opposite. I find it amusing that you can presume to know what a Judge will decide to do.
Barry cares [that he's illegitimate]. It would make him an inferior person in his own mind. So would a LOT of voters.
I seriously doubt it. Got any evidence to support that assertion?
Yeah. Everything he's ever done. He doesn't take criticism well. He gave both Hillary AND McCain the finger during debates with them. He's an ignorant little man child over which a windup toy monkey would be an improvement. Would the voters care? Absolutely. If the public discovered he was an illegitimate bastard, the campaign adds would write themselves. He would just have an AWESOME public temper tantrum. His preening ego couldn't take it. :)
That proves what's on the website is authentic, for there would be no reason for Obama to post a fake when he just got a real one from the state of Hawaii.
That DOES NOT prove that what's on his website is authentic. No one has made a detailed comparison between what he supposedly got from Hawaii and that image file he's posted. A lot of people suggested he screwed with the document just to keep the "birthers" running in circles. Could be. I don't believe a word he says, or a document he produces. If HAWAII produces one, and certifies it ORIGINAL, I would be more willing to accept it. As it is, too many lies and sneaky tactics have occurred for me to believe anything Obama says or does.
Well, then your state obviously has a different policy than Hawaii.
And you know that Hawaii policy is different? Care to post the Hawaiian Statute or Department rule that states Amended birth certificates will acknowledge that they have been Amended? (Which defeats the ENTIRE purpose of AMENDING them.)
Not being British doesn't make him an American. There are many children born to foreign fathers who are not British. :)
Waking people up to the fact that he's an ACTUAL bastard will help get rid of him. As the courts are useless because NOBODY has a right to question eligibility, I suspect getting him tagged with "Bastard" will get him removed faster than proving he's ineligible.
Wacky Birthers. Still forming circular firing squads. No less arrogant pricks who are too smart by half.
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