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Interesting - I had no idea Germans were interested in the Civil War
1 posted on 06/05/2011 7:35:09 PM PDT by Arec Barrwin
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To: Arec Barrwin

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2 posted on 06/05/2011 7:40:19 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (The storm clouds of war are on the horizon, 1939 is again approaching us.)
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To: Arec Barrwin

The French are too.

My family are reenactors and we met a group from France who were here to attend an event.


4 posted on 06/05/2011 7:44:14 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Arec Barrwin

Sounds like a good exercise for Europe. But I think it’s emulating the wrong American war. The Germans should turn it back about a hundred years.


5 posted on 06/05/2011 7:44:30 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: Arec Barrwin
"Interesting - I had no idea Germans were interested in the Civil War"

That's news to me too.

Funny how recently my daughter and I were watching a Civil War documentary, and she referred to the Confederates as "our side". Being from VA, I was kinda proud of her.

6 posted on 06/05/2011 7:45:32 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Arec Barrwin

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7 posted on 06/05/2011 7:48:40 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Arec Barrwin

Neither did I. But I’m not surprised. Nor am I surprised that they tend to choose the Confederate side.

The American Army that kicked their collective butts in two World Wars is, after all a direct descendant of the Union Army, so reenacting from the Union side would be uncomfortably like treason. Also, there is a certain wry fellowship among losers, although it is seldom expressed as such.

In any case, I don’t think that it needs to be taken that seriously. It’s just a bunch of overgrown kids playing in the wilderness. No need to get all psychological about it.


8 posted on 06/05/2011 7:49:16 PM PDT by Ronin ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves" -- Bertrand de Jouve)
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To: Arec Barrwin

They call it “das Amerikanisches Buergerkrieg”.

German gun magazines have always been huge about American military history. Heck, when I was a kid in the 1960’s, Germans were already dressing up like Indians and U.S. Cavalry.

Safer than dressing up like Waffen SS. (Sorry, couldn’t resist) But there’s a side of the German character that likes to remind America of its own Teutonic roots, which is undeniable and dates back to the Revolutionary War.

I’ll bet these modern German reenactors have already constructed ancestral geneologies of German immigrants who fought in the American Civil War.


9 posted on 06/05/2011 7:50:32 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("Deport Muslims. Nuke Mecca. Death to Islam. Freedom for mankind.")
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To: Arec Barrwin

Lol. That would be funny to see.


10 posted on 06/05/2011 7:51:03 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: Arec Barrwin

just my “WAG”, but many people enjoy military history. the honor, courage, sacrifice, bravery, are appealing across national lines.

the Germans, are “discouraged” from celebrating their own military history. not just WW2, but even WW1. so, where WOULD their military buffs go?

Civil War reenactments are some of the largest in the world. and as for why the South, that’s easy. The sterotypes of southern soldiers, even in “John Wayne” movies, shows great honor and courage even in a losing cause.
and it certainly strikes parallels to me, of the Prussian grey. Especially in things like Pickett’s Charge.

...and i also think this is more of the leftist propaganda about the Civil War was all about slavery. Even President Lincoln admitted that VERY clearly, in his (in)famous quote.

the Atlantic is wrong, when it implies the southern soldiers portrayed by the Germans were fighting for slavery.
Most were poor men, without slaves, who were fighting to defend their own land, and their own state.

frankly, i am mystified by this revisionist rewriting i’ve seen in the past decade or so, trying to make it ALL about slavery.

anyway, thanks for posting this, and letting me ramble.


11 posted on 06/05/2011 7:51:14 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: Arec Barrwin

Don’t worry we will have a fresh CW for them to recreate very soon...


12 posted on 06/05/2011 7:54:06 PM PDT by Nat Turner (I can see NOVEMBER 2012 from my house....)
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To: Arec Barrwin

Can’t find the French group, but here’s an Italian one.
http://www.rievocazioni-guerra-civile.it/en/2.html


14 posted on 06/05/2011 7:57:38 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Arec Barrwin
Why are so many Germans participating in Civil War reenactments?

Because no matter which side they're on, they get to fantasize about killing Americans.

16 posted on 06/05/2011 8:01:55 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Arec Barrwin

Germans are into Gospel music, too.


24 posted on 06/05/2011 8:27:49 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: Arec Barrwin

We American’s have some historical periods and events that are iconic around the world. Our Cowboy lore is iconic for being unique in the world as Europe, and many nations in Asia and the Middle East were well built out and conquered time and again centuries before our Cowboy period. There is a reason for the passion with those Spaghetti Westerns.

I’ve always thought the the US Civil War was the iconic war following the Napoleonic Wars.

Napoleon engaged in total war and reshaped it irreversibly. Following that, warfare did not change appreciably until the US Civil War.

Imagine living in Europe and reading about the accuracy and range of our Parrot Rifles when the rest of the world was still using Napoleons for artillery cannons. Imagine reading about troops using the Henry repeating rifle that fired 14 rounds in succession. Imagine reading about the turreted battleship Monitor. Imagine reading about troops speeding around the USA on locomotive trains.

I have to believe that the world’s people were fascinated by the martial developments that occurred during the US Civil War, and followed it extensively. Let alone the historical implications of the fracturing of the world’s foremost Republic.

Europe was still mainly ruled by Monarchs in Europe and in Britain. Queen Victoria was the ruler of Britain, not a mere figurehead. Napoleon Bonaparte’s nephew was Emperor of France. Isabella was Queen of Spain, Wilhelm was King of Prussia, and Alexander was Czar of Russia.

I think the world was very much spellbound by the civil war going on in the USA at the time. It revolutionized war, beginning with Napoleonic tactics and ending in trench warfare seen through WWI.

I’m not surprised that there are be US Civil War enthusiasts in any country, let alone Europe. The US civil war was very iconic of the 19th Century. The USA was ascendant and the world was just getting a glimpse of things to come.


26 posted on 06/05/2011 8:33:14 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (SP12: Josh Ferrin for President.)
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To: Arec Barrwin

In my one trip to Germany, I saw a huge Confederate battle flag hoisted in the middle of a farm field while riding a train from Frankfurt to Bonn.


28 posted on 06/05/2011 8:38:01 PM PDT by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: Arec Barrwin

Not to nitpick but there was no Germany when the Civil War happened. There was Austria, Prussia, and a zillion other little Germanic states left over from the Holy Roman Empire. Most were in a loose onfederation with Prussia that wouldn’t become Germany for a few more years.

One of my great-great grandfathers was Prussian who served for the North.


30 posted on 06/05/2011 8:41:15 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: Arec Barrwin

My great-great-great-great grandfather was of German ancestry and their families settled in Virginia, Pennsylvania and Ohio.

The Virginians fought for the South, and they fought against their brothers and cousins in the North.


33 posted on 06/05/2011 9:09:38 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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Civil War re-enactments in Germany *ping*


35 posted on 06/05/2011 9:39:39 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Arec Barrwin
When Germans gather at the reenactments, "more people want to be on the Confederate side."

Could it be because the Confederate generals were better tacticians?

36 posted on 06/05/2011 10:09:22 PM PDT by danielmryan
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