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To: bajabaja
Expected Survival Time in 60 to 70 degree water: 2 to 40 hours; exhaustion or unconscious in 1 to 2 hours.

So it could be expected that this guy had plenty of survival time. Deciding to have the State forcibly go out and subvert his will at the very real risk of innocent lives is what you would suggest? No thanks.

BTW, have you seen this?

56 posted on 06/04/2011 1:59:28 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

Yes, he did have “plenty of survival time” but he was unconscious within the 1 to 2 hours that the chart predicts and this comports with what happened here.

Why wasn’t this a “wait it out” matter? He will eventually go unconscious at those water temps (in an hour or two) and can be watched and dragged ashore without the feared fight ever occurring.

The water temp/unconsciousness data is not looking good for the “we can only watch” argument. DainBramaged has not replied, I note, after asking for a debate. He seems to have ceded the argument.

And I read the article you posted. This troubled me:
“But water rescue policies are in the process of negotiations between the firefighters union and the city, so what they can and cannot do is not set down in writing.”

We now wait on union negotiations being completed in emergency situations?


66 posted on 06/04/2011 2:10:56 PM PDT by bajabaja (Too ugly to be scanned at the airports.)
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