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Interesting numbers if you look at the charts--those making the big noise on this issue are non-white, democrats who make less than $30K a year. Why does no one raise the issue of greed among the poor? Greed for other people's money and possessions about which God says, "Thou shall not covet." (yep it made the big ten for a reason)
1 posted on 06/04/2011 2:18:54 AM PDT by applpie
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Those who rob Peter to pay Paul can always count on Paul’s vote.


2 posted on 06/04/2011 2:21:32 AM PDT by Salamander (FREE* LAZ! [*with purchase of FReeper of equal or greater value. Some restrictions may apply.])
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"those making the big noise on this issue are non-white, democrats who make less than $30K a year"

Who would have ever thought this?!

3 posted on 06/04/2011 2:27:01 AM PDT by jla
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Is that the same 47% who pay no income taxes?


4 posted on 06/04/2011 2:29:21 AM PDT by mkmensinger
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Which is why the tenet of social justice has been hijacked and bastardized by the left.

Rather than individuals doing what we’re instructed to do for the poor, they demand that the state do it instead under the guise of compassion and calling those who object the covetous, greedy ones.


5 posted on 06/04/2011 2:33:11 AM PDT by Nickname
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Earlier this morning I posted this reply in the context of claiming political parties for our frustrations over the way we are governed:

There is a school of thought which says that in a democracy-or a representative republic-the people get more or less what they want which is another way of saying they get more or less what they deserve. One could argue that politicians can quite understandably come to regard their constituents as mortal enemies, untrustworthy, unreliable, and two-faced. These politicians would say that they are not cynical, only realistic, knowing that the best way to lose reelection is to actually live up to campaign promises. They would say, "we are in the business of giving people what they want not what they say they want."

How long would a politician's shelf life be if he said that we must cut all Social Security payments because they are contrary to the Constitution? That is not such a leap. The fact is that when the left gets its courts to ratify departures from the Constitution a lot of people are very pleased when they go to the bank and cash the results of that decision.

If a politician says he is going to downsize government we all nod our heads in solemn agreement and then cut off the head of any politician in the next election who actually does it.

We are encouraged to displace blame for our mess by blaming the political parties. Make no mistake, there is a world of difference in my view between the Democrats and Republicans. I believe the Democrats are in thrall to an ideology and a complex financial network manipulated by a few led by George Soros which drives them to gross excesses much worse than Republican administrations would visit upon us. But my point is that we really ought to take a look in the mirror before we, as so many of us do, declare, "a pox on both your houses."

It is the nature of man to rationalize his own self interest as a universal good. One need not consider more beyond the tea party protesters of last summer demanding smaller government but motivated by a reduction in their Medicare.

Politics is a pit of vipers and we must be as wise as serpents but we cannot be wise if we delude ourselves.

As we as constituents are conditioned to blame political parties, the political parties themselves exploit this conditioning process and deflect the blame to the other party. So long as they can get 50% plus one vote they win that game. But we in our self-righteousness and ignorance play that game and then fulminate that we have been betrayed.


6 posted on 06/04/2011 2:37:35 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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90% of the millionaires got there by working 70-80 hours per week and managing their money for circa 20 years according to a NBC report a few years back. This person was modest in their lifestyle not having a flashy car nor having an expansive home.

Does anyone think this obviously intelligent and hardworking person is going to work the hours it takes to be successful if some parasite politician wants to steal his hard-earned money??? NOT!

The entrepreneurship will dry up, in fact, it already is among some I know who are not going to incur the risk just to have any risk-reward stolen.


8 posted on 06/04/2011 3:32:54 AM PDT by PORD (People Of Right & Duty!)
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One interesting thing to note is that the anti-"fat cat" numbers (should take more, too many rich in the nation) peak just before the '08 elections, then slowly slide back.

One explanation could be the economic difficulties lead to perceptions that everyone is being hurt, which softens the coveting.

Another explanation is that 0 and his programs are helping relieve the wealth divide, which would likely increase his support among the sub-$30k population.

Or a third, and maybe even more plausible, is that with Bush 43 out of office, the steady drumbeat of the media claiming Bush did everything he did to benefit corporate wealth has ended, and to see 0's catering to elite wealth, you have to push past stories golf outings, ice cream slurp-fests, high-proflie celbrity White House galas, and tense heroic decisions.

9 posted on 06/04/2011 3:32:59 AM PDT by Quiller (When you're fighting to survive, there is no "try" -- there is only do, or do not.)
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Redistribute? I spend my whole life trying to earn wealth, who knew someone was distributing it? I must assume there was an initial distribution of wealth if now they want to re-distribute it


10 posted on 06/04/2011 3:44:21 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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Bump


12 posted on 06/04/2011 3:47:30 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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those making the big noise on this issue are non-white, democrats who make less than $30K a year. Why does no one raise the issue of greed among the poor?
Nay, nay. It's not greed. It's that they just want 'fairness'.

After all, with Section Eight Housing Vouchers, Free medical care via Medicaid, Free Food 'Stamps', three Free Meals a day in school, and 'general assistance' for each on her Eight children -- after getting them all the mandatory $150 sneakers, that 55" Plasma TV with Surround Sound, and the iPads, iPods, and 17" Screen Laptops for the older kids. When all is said and done, Momma, can barely keep up the payments on her Caddy Escalade. Heck, she even had to 'save' some of her 'own money' to buy those custom 24" chrome wheels with spinners. HER OWN MONEY, dang it. Where's the justice and fairness in that?

So at the current rate how do you expect her to ever get that Bentley she so richly 'deserves'. It just ain't 'fair', darn it.


35 posted on 06/04/2011 6:19:04 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A.Einstein])
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We call the Leftist “poor”, the “gimme girls.”

They have no idea that when the government takes money from “the rich” (anyone who earns more than the poor) they do not re-distribute that money to the poor.

They spend it to enhance their political power among the “rich” leftist pet projects and more bureaucrats. The poor see very little, if any, of the stolen loot.

This is what Americans finally realized in the 80’s. The rich is anyone with money to be stolen, and the poor are left wing activists. Normal people never see the loot but are looted after every election.


37 posted on 06/04/2011 6:55:43 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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Yet, their numbers are growing and ours are not.


42 posted on 06/04/2011 7:37:52 AM PDT by 38special (troubling, isn't it?)
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We're in a death spiral. These people will never understand that having a lot of rich people around is what enables this county's “poor” to be overweight, have flat screen TV’s, Blackberries with data plans and Bluetooth headsets. Truly poor people aren't overweight.
45 posted on 06/04/2011 9:22:19 AM PDT by The Good Doctor (Democracy is the only system where you can vote for a tax that you can avoid the obligation to pay.)
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