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WikiLeaks Exposes North American Integration Plot

	05/26/2011 11:48:52 AM PDT · by justlittleoleme · 59 replies New American ^ | Monday, 02 May 2011 21:00 | Alex Newman As early as January of 2005, high-ranking officials were discussing the best way to sell the idea of North American “integration” to the public and policymakers while getting around national constitutions. The prospect of creating a monetary unit to replace national currencies was a hot topic as well. Some details of the schemes were exposed in a secret 2005 U.S. embassy cable from Ottawa signed by then-Ambassador Paul Cellucci. The document was released by WikiLeaks on April 28. But so far, it has barely attracted any attention in the United States, Canada, or Mexico beyond a few mentions in some...
Wikileaks Exposes North American Integration Plot
	05/09/2011 3:22:05 PM PDT · by GiovannaNicoletta · 41 replies The New American ^ | May 2, 2011 | Alex Newman snip Integration is a little-used term employed mainly by policy wonks. But while it may sound relatively harmless, it generally describes a very serious phenomenon when used in a geopolitical context — the gradual merging of separate countries under a regional authority. Similar processes are already well underway in Europe, Africa, and South America. And according to critics, the results — essentially abolishing national sovereignty in favor of supranational, unaccountable governance — have been an unmitigated disaster. But the U.S. government doesn’t think so. In North America, integration has been proceeding rapidly for years. The New American magazine was among...

[BenLurkin]

Don’t let the frog know that it is being boiled.

[Artemis Webb]

horsesh*t

[headstamp 2]

The funny part is that we’ll be playing the roll of a Greece or a Spain in any such union if we don’t get our financial house in order anyway.

Canada would probably want things to stay as they are for now.

[pallis]

The US is Mexico’s economy.

[gnarledmaw]

The cable may have been written in 2005 but it was years before that right here on FR that it had been discussed several times. I remember one article in particular that gave a link to an IMF or Trilateral page that went into the whole thing in some detail.

The whole thing was blown off then as being the rantings of a conspiracy theorist...

I imagine many here will make the same mistake again.

[mhx]

Dear Canadian friends:

Don’t worry, we don’t want it either.

[verklaring]

1. There is a distinct difference between border crossing with security between North America (USA & Canada) and the rest of the world. Canada has only one border, physically, that with the USA. Easing crossing between the two after 9/11 is not the same thing as integration. Until the USA has Border security on its southern border the subject is nonsense.

2. While some stability in currency would be helpful, integration in currency is not going to happen, the Canadian people would not accept it. The USA is destroying the dollar with debt and QE2, QE3... In the last year the Canadian dollar went from .95 to 1.04 US. Surrendering the Canadian dollar to a common currency is not even on the horizon. If the USA does not stop its debt-based self destruction, it will be even less likely.

3. The economic currency union + currency union without complete political integration(effectively becoming one country) in Europe is destroying Europe. It does not work.

4. Canadians have no more interest in surrendering sovereignty that do Americans. Canadians are if anything paranoid on this subject. Canada has about the population of California, it would be an unequal contest. Beside it would not be in the USA interest to have such integration, to impose, for example the EPA’s idiocy on Canada would cut off 20% of the USA’s natural gas and oil. The same thing would be true for Mexico.

This kind of fear mongering, in the articles mentioned is the pipe dream of radical liberals perhaps but is is also tinfoil.

[steveab]

Right out of he Club of Rome handbook.

[Cringing Negativism Network]

“apparently written Jan. 28, 2005”

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How’s that RINO, “free trade” thing working out, patriotic American conservatives?

[Lazamataz]

The integration of North America’s economies would best be achieved through an “incremental” approach, according to a leaked U.S. diplomatic cable. The cable, released through the WikiLeaks website and apparently written Jan. 28, 2005, discusses some of the obstacles surrounding the merger of the economies of Canada, the United States and Mexico in a fashion similar to the European Union. “An incremental and pragmatic package of tasks for a new North American Initiative (NAI) will likely gain the most support among Canadian policymakers,” the document said. “The economic payoff of the prospective North American initiative … is available, but its size and timing are unpredictable, so it should not be oversold.”

..... and this was W Bush's time.

Wow, we've been under about 20 years of liberal rule.

[9YearLurker]

Somehow I don’t think President Palin is going to go along with this.