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To: BillyBoy; EternalVigilance; Clintonfatigued; PaleoBob; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; ...

Fred a stalking horse? Sorry EV I don’t buy that. Too many candidates are accused of that in absence of all proof. I don’t believe Fred wasted his time and energy running for President just to help McCain.

As for the EC, in principle I support the popular vote and thus disagree with most freepers. In 04 Kerry lost Ohio and the election by a much smaller margin that he lost nationwide. It would have tremendously pissed me off if he had won with the overall popular majority still going to Bush. I’d be very curious to have seen the reaction to that on the right.

Practically though popular vote is likely to help the democrats more often than not (like in 2000) because of the big cities and their massive fraud. And it opens the door to nationwide recounts, which would be disastrous. And while on principle I don’t care much about empowering smaller states in POTUS elections, those states mostly lean our way so empowering them is positive.

So Fred is wrong, we need the EC to protect us from the aforementioned problems. I’m a realpolitik kind of guy. Lost in the discussion is that it’s exceeding unlikely for the EC and popular vote to actually produce different winners.

I wasn’t on the Fred train at the time in 08. I got on it in hindsight. Since then I’ve learned many things that make me like him less, this is another one. Still like him better than Rudy McRombee.


142 posted on 06/04/2011 6:06:30 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy
Practically though popular vote is likely to help the democrats more often than not (like in 2000) because of the big cities and their massive fraud.

One theory is that, JFK having received the presidency in 1960 from the hand of Sam "Momo" Giancana of the Chicago Mob, when he and RFK damaged the Cosa Nostra with the Joseph Valachi papers and testimony, "Momo" and the boys sent Lee Harvey Oswald to repossess it.

My own theory is that it was LBJ; other people like Nikita Khruschev. I can't wait for the day that that affair is finally elucidated -- all I know is that the LBJ and his Warren Commission have pissed on our heads for 45 years and told us it's raining.

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These are enormous questions of power and right. Let's listen to people who are warning us about electoral fraud.

146 posted on 06/04/2011 6:51:03 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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