Posted on 06/03/2011 10:50:23 AM PDT by SmithL
Jack Kevorkian and his supporters portrayed the death doc as a compassionate man who offered "death with dignity" to individuals suffering from a poor quality of life. I always saw him as a man who preyed on vulnerable individuals by telling them their lives weren't worth living -- as I watched Kevorkian survive over the years, despite medical problems that dwarfed those of many of his victims.
In 2007, I wrote:
Fans of Kevorkian ought to be asking themselves: In that the ailing Kevorkian is in worse physical shape than many of the people whose lives he helped snuff out, why hasn't the death doc used his vaunted "medicide" on himself? . . .
(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...
Remedial reading might benefit you. I don’t want government’s permission or your permission to do anything, particularly to end my life if I find it necessary. I can only hope that you get the opportunity to find what a tough guy you really are, you arrogant little worm.
Nobody is stopping you from ending your own life your own self.
Go ahead if that’s what you want to do.
But do it yourself. Don’t drag anyone else into it and don’t demand that the government sanction murder by making forms of it like this not a crime.
You’re not clear. You’re advocating doctor assisted suicide and at the same time claiming you don’t. Right now people can kill themselves easily and they do all the time. So what’s your outrage, then?
What tough guy stuff are you talking about? You mean I’d want to kill myself if I was in enough pain? Not a chance.
This arrogant little worm (I like that, has a certain ring to it) supports the right of all humans not to be pressured or encouraged to commit suicide and to keep the medical profession from turning into executioners.
“But do it yourself. Don’t drag anyone else into it and don’t demand that the government sanction murder by making forms of it like this not a crime.”
I will “drag someone else into it” if I feel like I need to and they’re willing to help, whether you or the government approves of it or not. I don’t see what’s so hard to undertand about the idea that it’s no one’s business but mine and God’s...not yours, not the government’s, not my neighbor, no one’s. I’m not “demanding that the government sanction murder”, I’m demanding that they stay the hell out of that part of my life (and death), along with any other busybody who might want to intervene.
Shouldn’t that be “arrogant little jeremiah worm?” LOL
I’m a little surprised we haven’t run out of deathbot trolls. They get zotted on a regular basis, and yet there seems to be no end to them. It’s amazing that they could be surrounded by so much intelligence, and remain so stupid.
You’re not clear. You’re advocating doctor assisted suicide and at the same time claiming you don’t. Right now people can kill themselves easily and they do all the time. So what’s your outrage, then?
I’m not advocating doctor-assited suicide, I’m advocating the right of every individual to ask for assistance if they need it under those circumstances, and from a professional with the access to the means and knowledge of how to use them should said professional agree to help...WITHOUT the interference of government or any other party that has zero right to intervene.
“What tough guy stuff are you talking about? You mean I’d want to kill myself if I was in enough pain? Not a chance”
Talk is cheap. Time will tell.
“If you think pro-lifers are “arrogant little worms” there are other places you could go.”
How about that, another know-it-all. I am pro-life. I think that someone who presumes to tell me what I should do with my life when I’m in unbearable pain with no means of relief...especially while calling me names in the process..is an arrogant little worm. There are other places you can go, too.
Where did you ever get the strange un-American idea that you have a "right" to commit murder?
There is no right to do wrong. Never has been, never will be.
No, you are not pro-life. Words mean things. In order to be pro-life, you would have to be, wait for it..... pro-life. If you promote killing people instead of giving them proper medical care, you are not pro-life.
Uh - that's called "doctor assisted suicide", bub. Dancing around playing jugglery with word's is cowardly. It's obvious you want the personal responsibility taken away from your good self and placed on a "medical professional". I call that Nanny Statism and a cop-out. You think you might want to kill yourself in the future? Read books, accumulate suicide supplies now. You want to rope doctors in via changing laws. That means "government interference".
Talk is cheap. Time will tell.
You have no clue what kind of life experiences I've been, pain endured, or illnesses suffered. I laugh at your stupid assumptions.
Perhaps those ideas come from satanism. They certainly don’t come from any God-based religion. God does not sanction murder, no matter how the deathbots try to twist it.
Hmm, no one, let alone this arrogant little worm, is telling you that you can't kill yourself. Go right ahead. People do it all the time. Nothing is preventing you now or in the future. There are books written covering umpteen different methods. What is getting you all riled up is that we are opposing changing LAWS and getting GOVERNMENT INVOLVED and the MEDICAL PROFESSION involved so that you can not take PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for your suicide.
And funny that you are calling me an arrogant little worm (I actually like it, sounds kind of cute) and then haughtily accuse me of name calling! Keep it up, I'm getting some good laughs from your comments!
Most of Kervorkian’s victims were not terminal.
Death mongers frequently assume that anyone who values life has no life experience. They have such a negative view of life, they can't imagine anyone actually valuing it. I've noticed that most of the regulars who advocate for life on the pro-life threads have a rich history of life experience. There are many cancer survivors, disabled people, care givers, etc. On the death side, there are many people who talk about theories, but rarely have they actually experienced anything relevant. Once they actually face a life and death situation, they switch sides real quick. Like their hero Dr. Death, they never apply their own medicine to themselves, except in hypothetical situations and theories. Other people should be killed, but never them.
I agree with you. I was going to write some of the experiences I’ve had, and then thought better, even jotting down this and that wouldn’t convince anyone.
Pro-death people are very “ME ME ME” centered. Those without compassion for the suffering of others just don’t SEE others. They see only themselves. Their wants.
Another point is that those of us who have come close to death either our own, or others’ (or both) and suffering and illness, and are pro-life, realize that God is in control. Death and life are under His jurisdiction and control, not mine. It’s our job to go along with His plan and His will, not try to wrest control away from Him (which can never really happen anyway, and always creates more suffering). Resting in His will is the only safe place.
“If you promote killing people instead of giving them proper medical care, you are not pro-life.”
Except that I don’t “promote killing people”. If you get that from what I’ve said about the right to choose to end one’s life and to seek assistance in doing so if desired, without government (or other) interference, then you’re hopelessly determined to stick to your agenda. Have at it. Words don’t mean anything relative to the reality of a situation you have not found yourself in. Talk is cheap.
Yes, they do. You're promoting killing people. That is not pro-life.
No need to write about your experiences. When you write about compassion for others, your experience comes through.
You are so right about how our experiences shape us, and bring us closer to God and an understanding and acceptance of His will.
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