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Outrage as pharmacist who shot 16-year-old trying to rob his shop gets life sentence
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 06/01/2011 | DAILY MAIL REPORTER

Posted on 06/01/2011 1:49:57 PM PDT by massmike

A controversial decision to send a pharmacist to jail for life for shooting dead a young man who tried to rob his store has caused a storm of protest. Jerome Ersland was given a life sentence for the first-degree murder of 16-year-old Antwun Parker at an Oklahoma court last week. The 59-year-old pharmacist shot the youngster six times during an attempted armed robbery in 2009, leading jurors to decide he had acted beyond the limits of self defence.

Thousands in the area have, however, reacted furiously to the decision, insisting Mr Ersland had simply acted to protect himself, his store and his customers.

After chasing the accomplice from the store, Ersland then gets a second gun before shooting Parker another five times, almost a minute after he fired the first gunshot.

Defence lawyer Irven Box asked jurors to close their eyes and imagine what they would do if they were confronted with the same situation.

'He eliminated the armed robber,' Box said. Box added to ABC News that the pharmacist had shot repeatedly because he saw Parker was still moving after the first hit so deemed him still to be a threat.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: banglist; ersland; selfdefense
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The "victim"

1 posted on 06/01/2011 1:50:02 PM PDT by massmike
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To: massmike

This will embolden more criminals... and now we have legal precedent to take down the next innocent victim of a crime who decides to shoot back.


2 posted on 06/01/2011 1:53:13 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: massmike

The pharmacist must be a member of the evil rich community.


3 posted on 06/01/2011 1:56:38 PM PDT by ripley
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To: massmike
Defence lawyer Irven Box asked jurors to close their eyes and imagine what they would do if they were confronted with the same situation.

How about tie the perp up in a bag, wait till it gets dark, take bag to river, and heave ho??

4 posted on 06/01/2011 1:57:10 PM PDT by wendy1946 (Bork Obunga; Before he borks you...)
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pitchfork time...


5 posted on 06/01/2011 1:57:25 PM PDT by Maverick68
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To: massmike

Why wasn’t he charged with manslaughter rather than first-degree murder?


6 posted on 06/01/2011 1:58:03 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Please sir...permission to protest?)
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To: massmike

didn’t a judge just declare jail a human rights violation?


7 posted on 06/01/2011 1:58:56 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: massmike

Just when he was turning his life around...just needed some cash for trade school.


8 posted on 06/01/2011 1:59:12 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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I don't know ... he walked pretty casually to the back room to fetch the second weapon, and went out of his way to put himself back into the face of what he later claimed to be a threat. It couldn't have been much of a threat, given the fact that he so calmly walked right back into the store, right past the "victim" on the floor, turned his back to the victim for an extended period of time, and then came back to finish him off at his leisure.

I'd say he shouldn't have done it.

9 posted on 06/01/2011 2:00:13 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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10 posted on 06/01/2011 2:00:30 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FreeRepublic.com. Now, More Than Ever.)
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To: massmike

What is enraging is the double standard. If the pharmacist was a cop, and did the exact same thing, and defended himself in court int he exact same way - i.e.e he still feared for his life, the kid was moving, still had the gun, etc., not only would have gotten off, he would have received a paid leave and a promotion.

But the “legal fact” is that cops lives are more important than civilian lives.

How much more important? Just look at this case and compare it to ANY case where the cop was a shooter. Life imprisonment, versus - freedom, a paid vacation and a promotion.

In yer face, America.


11 posted on 06/01/2011 2:00:51 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on its own.)
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To: massmike
Just a few random thoughts, as a Texan, enjoying our ample self defense laws:

- You get out of jail free when the perp is still on their feet and armed - therefore, use enough gun, double tap, and make those shots count.

- if you've gone out the door and come back in, your “castle defense” is probably gone.

- if the perp is on the floor, shooting him again is probably going to cause problems

- having a camera and recording system is kind of a double edged sword. I'm not sure I'd have one, and if I did, I'd make sure I was the ONLY one that knew about it.

12 posted on 06/01/2011 2:02:12 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: massmike

“After chasing the accomplice from the store, Ersland then gets a second gun before shooting Parker another five times, almost a minute after he fired the first gunshot.”

Justice? Yes. Self defense? Probably not.


13 posted on 06/01/2011 2:03:57 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You can never do more, you should never wish to do less.)
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To: Talisker
Did the dirtbag have another gun? Would the dirtbag have come after the pharmacist and his family after an all too brief prison sentence?

Good riddance...life in prison for the pharmacist is ridiculous...

14 posted on 06/01/2011 2:06:06 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I agree with you. I believe, on the one hand, that antwon(what a stupid name)got his just desserts, but as you stated, the danger was past. Mr. Erslund was pretty nonchalant about his actions upon returning to the store.


15 posted on 06/01/2011 2:06:33 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: I cannot think of a name

Pharmacies generally make it no secret that they have everything on camera, sometimes with TV monitors up above the prescription counter.


16 posted on 06/01/2011 2:07:25 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: massmike

If the kid was shot in the head, he may already have been dead. Contrary to television and the movies, people don’t quit moving when they are fatally shot. They writhe.

If the kid still had a gun in his hand, he may have looked like a threat. We don’t know what his face looked like. Did he honestly represent a continuing threat? Maybe. I tend to doubt it, but he may have.

Once the guy is on the ground, I would watch him until the police arrived. If he was or could be disarmed, I would have. I probably wouldn’t have shot him again, but then I wasn’t there seeing what the pharmacist did.

My rule of thumb is this. The pharmacist didn’t go to this kid’s home or place of employment to commit a crime, threaten someone’s life.

The boy did seek out the pharmacist to commit a crime, threaten someone’s life.

IMO, the attacked person should be the one defended by the law, even in the extreme. If you come to my domicile or place of business to harm me, my employees, or customers, you have already forfeited your life to me.

While I may not have shot this kid the additional times, he more or less had it coming. Threat or not, he’s not coming back to harm this pharmacist or any other person ever again.

Excellent.

The kid’s picture reveals what a handsome young man. I am sorry he decided to play gangsta on that day, but he did. Well, he got what gangstas get.

The gangsta mentality is a dead end mentality.

Who knew?


17 posted on 06/01/2011 2:09:29 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Tell me you haven't asked yourself what mistake Obama made, that wound up causing Laden's death?)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I agree. The premeditation was clear. To go get a second weapon, return to the threat and then to finish the job flies in the face of self defense claims.


18 posted on 06/01/2011 2:09:43 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (A "Moderate Muslim"? Nothing more than a Muslim Extremist who has run out of ammo.)
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To: massmike

One less lowlife criminal to threaten society.

The Pharmacist is NOT a trained police officer and can not be expected to exercize the kind of prudence and control of such a professional in a situation like this.

He was an ordinary citizen like all of us, who was threatened with death and the age of the killer is as irrelevant as any other factor about that individual.

The pharmacist reacted as any one of us would have under the circumstances.

He should not even have undergone the indignity of a trial, and in a less genteel, but more rational society as existed in our past, he would have been commended, not tried.

Hopefully he appeals this case and wins.


19 posted on 06/01/2011 2:10:19 PM PDT by ZULU (Lindsey Graham is a nanometrical pustule of pusillanimous putrescence)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Because manslaughter would imply that the pharmacist did not know that his actions would lead to death for the individual.

Like, accidentally leaving the park brake off when you park on a steep hill and the car gives, just as somebody walked in front of it.


20 posted on 06/01/2011 2:11:03 PM PDT by Jonty30
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