Posted on 05/31/2011 7:31:23 PM PDT by Kartographer
“Karl Rove, I respect. Krauthammer, I have a lot of respect for — he’s one of the thoughtful conservatives out there,” Cain told The Daily Caller. “My response is . . . I’m not running to become president of the establishment. I am running to become president of the people of the United States of America. [Rove and Krauthammer] will eventually wake up and realize that I am a serious candidate for the nomination.”
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Governors face a variety of issues relatively unrelated to those a president faces. Governors deal largely with foreign issues, and a few key domestic items. It is about leadership and decision making which is why governors make good candidates. They are executives rather than legislators. A business executive also have similar experience sets. Herman has to prove he is prepared to be President, but he does have significant chief executive experience in multiple large organizations. He also has monetary experience in the Federal Reserve. Returning to good monetary policy has to be a priority.
I must agree with that. I really do like Herman (and yes, I'm a Palin supporter), but I want to see him win a governorship first, then go on to do a good job of running a state, before he takes on the job of running the whole US government.
They have already sucked up the tea party like a warm slurpy.
Established order maintains until total collapse. It is a necessary thing required for structural realignment. It is hard, but it is the only way we can do the necessary adjustments.
Really?
He’s 65. That’s a very nice way to say you don’t want him to run. Palin and Cain have been very polite about each other in the media, and I’d rather not see pissing matches between their supporters on FR. We have much more deserving people to trash.
How did you get that from this article? There is nothing even resembling what you said.
Dude, your reading apprehension is in need of some serious improvement.
Ruh Roh!
No, you love to be the skunk at the picnic. The GOP candidate for 2012 will definitely NOT be from the 'establishment'.
Well, I didn’t read the article. So, it appears that you all have a point. However, when there’s an opportunity to criticize Karl Rove and Krauthammer, really go all out, you take it, if you’re honestly not with them.
I will also say that I like do like Palin, do believe the most likely scenario is that she sails to an easy victory.
And I’m not dumping on Cain, I just think that he should be classified as an Establishment Conservative instead of a Tea Party Conservative. Tea Party Conservatives will be drawn to Palin, Establishment Conservatives right now like Romney, and Gingrich, who seems to be falling off a bit. Cain most certainly has a nice resume for Establishment Republicans. Note, Establishment often does mean RINO, but it doesn’t have to. People think that I mean “RINO” when I say “Establishment”, but I don’t use RINO because I don’t think Cain is a RINO. I just think that Cain would have an easier time against Romney and Gingrich than against Palin and anyone else on the tea party side.
And I’d prefer the tea party vs establishment finals to be Palin vs Cain instead of Cain vs Romney. Because I’d prefer that outcome, I do tend to push Cain as an Establishment figure. Cain can’t change his resume. He can change his rhetorical emphasis at any time. His resume is an Establishment one.
I shall defer argument on this point at this time.
I shall however come back after the fact and say I told you so before the fact.
As far as loving statement of reality, yes you pegged me there. I dislike it when everyone agrees on fantasy and tries to assume a false reality.
Both parties are running this country off the edge. There is no turning back now.
Godspeed
I'm not knocking Herman, and I'm not trying to have a "pissing match" with anyone here. This is the time for all of us to discuss the field, and I think that's what we're doing.
I agree with the statement by a poster upthread who wants to see Herman run a state government before he runs for president. I happen to agree with that.
I'd also like to see him prove that he can win an election of some kind before throwing all of my eggs into his basket. It may seem like a harsh fact to point out to some, but the truth is, he's never held elective office, and although he has run, he's never won an election.
In my way of looking at things, those things take away from his potential viability as a candidate and as a potential CIC.
On the plus side of the ledger, Cain is about all a conservative could ask for, ideologically-wise.
Godspeed.
“Karl Rove, I respect. Krauthammer, I have a lot of respect for — he’s one of the thoughtful conservatives out there,” Cain told The Daily Caller.
I called that praising. That’s what I saw. Rove = respect, Kraut = respect, thoughtful, conservative.
I would still say that is praising. I’m not talking about the whole article, just that sentence.
Rove and Krauthammer are not conservatives. They are enemies of conservatives. And Cain could’ve said they suck, but he said that he respects them.
I have eaten more of my words on this site than written, and shall publicly explain what a retard I am when proved wrong.
We shall indeed see.
I like West/Palin at this moment.
We will end up with Romney/Christie.
fair enough
So Cain is a establishment Candidate yet the establishment is dumping on him, hmmm that’s logical. Many what ever it is you are on you might consider cutting back a bit.
“The goal of the Tea Party is to get federal spending under control and reduce the size and overreach of the government - it isn’t to get into flame wars with Karl Rove or Charles Krauthammer.”
Hey Bucko, Krauthead and Rover are into flaming Sarah Palin, so maybe they need to put on some lead suits if they can’t stand the heat. Both of them are fully aware that we have no use for their RINO comments. Kraut alludes to his admitted cocktail party circuit opinions almost daily. Those comments about him came from here among other places. It has already caused him to temper his remarks a little, but not enough.
Well, the Establishment RINOS are dumping on him, not necessarily the Establishment Conservatives.
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