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Two privacy rulings hit us right where we live
desertdispatch.com ^ | 30 May, 2011 | JACOB SULLUM

Posted on 05/31/2011 6:53:40 AM PDT by marktwain

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It appears that they final nails are being driven into the coffin of the 4th amendment.
1 posted on 05/31/2011 6:53:42 AM PDT by marktwain
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Are the courts trying to get LEO’s killed???
2 posted on 05/31/2011 6:57:37 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Jared Lee Loughner - Disciple of Michael Moore)
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To: marktwain

Yep, and the rest of the Bill of Rights are on life support.


3 posted on 05/31/2011 6:59:26 AM PDT by SUSSA
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Welcome to the USSA, comrade. Keep your eyes down and shuffle along.


4 posted on 05/31/2011 7:00:31 AM PDT by Travis McGee (Castigo Cay is in print and on Kindle.)
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“there is no right to reasonably resist unlawful entry by police officers.”

Your home, your car, your person -- the police have full access 24/7 for any reason at all. You cannot stop them.

Unless, of course, you decide to stop them.

I think the police may come to regret making it open season on citizens. Nobody likes jack-booted thugs.

5 posted on 05/31/2011 7:00:36 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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Are the courts trying to get LEO’s killed???

How many home owners will be charged with murder for defending their homes?

How long before such events are used to justify confiscation of privately-held firearms?

'Cause you can't have upity citizens shooting at cops who bust down doors for no reason, ya know.
6 posted on 05/31/2011 7:02:40 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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Educate yourself. Even the lawyer who worked with Mr. King on the Kentucky case thought that Justice Alito's opinion was perfectly sound. I guess facts don't matter to liberaltarians.

http://volokh.com/2011/05/19/common-misreadings-of-kentucky-v-king-and-the-difference-between-exigent-circumstances-and-police-created-exigencies/

7 posted on 05/31/2011 7:05:38 AM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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Yes.

Then on to step 2:

Taking the guns away from you because its too dangerous for LEO’s.

Part of the plan, my man...part of the plan...


8 posted on 05/31/2011 7:14:37 AM PDT by Adder (Say NO to the O in 2 oh 12)
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I commit no crime in person or at home. Therefore, it is my policy that I will defend myself against illegal police action including warrentless search.... Years ago I swore to uphold the US Constitution against all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC. I hope that day never comes in the US....but I will honor my pledge.


9 posted on 05/31/2011 7:16:55 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama is a foreigner. He has no right to the office. He must be impeached. It's not personal.)
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The Indiana court has no jurisdiction over the 4th amendment.

BTW, one more time, the Indiana case has been misrepreented.

Barnes was OUTTA THERE. Other USSC cases of recent vintage say that she could have barred the cops, as a resident of the apartment, but she not only didn't bar them, she called them to help her!

The case would have been easily decided against Barnes ~ the man ~ simply by noting he was NO LONGER A RESIDENT.

The major mistake the court in Indiana made was using Islamic exegesis to examine the facts ~ then writing the woman out of the case and ruling on the basis no longer recognized in English or American common law ~ to wit, that the man is the head of the household and even if he doesn't live there the womenfolk gots ta' do what he says!

I've noticed a decided disinterest on the part of the "home is a castle" people who've commented to deal with the woman's rights to be in command of her own castle.

In fact, a clear reading of Indiana's Castle Doctrine law makes it understood that SHE could have called in the cops, or just picked up a shotgun and turned Barnes into a spray of pink mist.

I suspect a number of them to be Moslems who've infiltrated FR in the last couple of years.

10 posted on 05/31/2011 7:17:23 AM PDT by muawiyah
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Sends chills through my body - literally. What happened to “the land of the free”?


11 posted on 05/31/2011 7:18:21 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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Warrantless search is not always unlawful.


12 posted on 05/31/2011 7:18:56 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: freedomwarrior998

Did the cops bust down the door and enter an apartment without a warrant or not?


13 posted on 05/31/2011 7:20:06 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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I guess facts don't matter to liberaltarians.

Liberaltarians arguments always boil down to "I want to smoke pot"

14 posted on 05/31/2011 7:20:17 AM PDT by Dan(9698)
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Why would we be surprised at the deterioration of liberty in a time when even the equal protection of right to life of all persons is disregarded?

Remember, they’re butchering thousands again today in the abortuaries, or via chemical poisons.


15 posted on 05/31/2011 7:23:15 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('To you from failing hands we throw the torch; be yours to hold it high.')
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As the lone dissenting justice, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, noted, this decision “arms the police with a way routinely to dishonor the Fourth Amendment’s warrant requirement in drug cases.” Instead of “presenting their evidence to a neutral magistrate,” they can retroactively validate their decision to break into someone’s home by claiming they smelled something funny and heard something suspicious.

If Ruth Bader Ginsburg is the voice of reason, America is in deeper trouble than anyone thought.

16 posted on 05/31/2011 7:23:52 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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Really? I have often thought of myself as much like a Libertarian. And I have NEVER smoked pot. AND I don’t want to.

What most Libertarians want is Freedom from Socialists, Authoritarians, Communists, and overbearing Government in all forms.

Is that bad?


17 posted on 05/31/2011 7:25:37 AM PDT by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com)
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To: Adder

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2727531/posts

Uh Huh....

beginnings of step 2


18 posted on 05/31/2011 7:26:55 AM PDT by Adder (Say NO to the O in 2 oh 12)
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Their plan will run them out of LEO’s before we run out of guns.
19 posted on 05/31/2011 7:28:41 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Jared Lee Loughner - Disciple of Michael Moore)
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To: Dan(9698)

i am a libertarian. i do not smoke pot. i do support a person’s choice to do so at home at their own risk. stepping out of that circle, endangers the lives of others and opens them to the consequences of that action.

the destruction of being secure in one’s home is an end to western civilization and a free society. it is.

tell me how your prohibition is saving lives and money.

it is not.

teeman


20 posted on 05/31/2011 7:31:14 AM PDT by teeman8r (armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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