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It appears that this was not the best case to use to try to affirm the Constitution. SAF and Alan Gura are doing a better job at picking cases and defendants than the NRA is.
1 posted on 05/31/2011 6:29:17 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

This is also Michigan Law. You are required by law to inform the officer that you are permitted and are carrying during any contact, and that the officer may take control of the weapon for the duration of the interaction.


2 posted on 05/31/2011 6:32:59 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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"anyone with a gun ought to be considered "armed and dangerous""

Well, looks like the cops needs to be treated in a similar fashion.

Don't talk to cops.

3 posted on 05/31/2011 6:34:57 AM PDT by Paladin2
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It’s a little hard to come down on the side of anyone who is driving around with a handgun laying on the floor in plain sight—especially when they are being pulled over by the police.


4 posted on 05/31/2011 6:36:11 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: marktwain
SAF and Alan Gura are doing a better job at picking cases and defendants than the NRA is.

BINGO!

5 posted on 05/31/2011 6:36:29 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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By this reasoning, you must also throw all your guns out the window of your house before letting them in when they come to your door...which another court says they can do randomly for no reason.
But hey, don’t forget to register them guns, hear?


6 posted on 05/31/2011 6:39:15 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Please sir...permission to protest?)
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To: marktwain

Problem is, if NRA, Gura et al don’t get in gear and start pushing some MAJOR cases thru, we’ll have our rights defined by criminals attempting “Hail Mary” plays. _Heller_ and _McDonald_ were great ... now let’s get on with it and push the other obvious issues thru faster than 2 per decade.


7 posted on 05/31/2011 6:39:18 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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did the guy get his gun back? the story implies, but doesn’t answer that question. the cops can have temporary custody of my weapon whilst they’re making sure I’m not a thug, but I want it back before they leave.


8 posted on 05/31/2011 6:39:55 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: marktwain

In AZ it seems to be up to the officer if he takes possession of your firearm during a traffic stop, it can go either way. What pisses me off is when they make you empty all your magazines, it’s a pain to be standing on the side of the road and refilling them.


9 posted on 05/31/2011 6:44:04 AM PDT by jjones9853
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i dont think there is anything wrong with the police getting custody of the gun during the interaction/searching as long as they return it when they see nothing wrong


10 posted on 05/31/2011 6:46:32 AM PDT by 4rcane
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Well, I’ve only been CCWing for the last 3 weeks, and I have yet to be pulled over for anything.

But, I drive like a Grandma.
I’ll let y’all know how it goes if it happens.


13 posted on 05/31/2011 6:52:07 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Let this chant follow BHO everywhere he goes: "You lie. You lie. You lie.")
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I was pulled over for speeding a few years ago in Shreveport, LA. As per LA law I informed him I had a carry permit and was carrying. He relieved me of the gun and after a while returned with my ticket and gun (unloaded).

He then said " Don't reload here, but, when you get down the road apiece. You ARE in Shreveport. I never told him about the 9mm at my knee tucked in the seat.

17 posted on 05/31/2011 7:08:36 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks Right-Wing.)
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No one ever seems to mention the adage...’better to be tried by 12, than carried by six’...when it comes to LEOs and people with weapons.


27 posted on 05/31/2011 7:22:06 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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The state supreme court ruled on May 20 that "officer safety" is more important than any constitutional rights a gun-owning motorist might have.

Unbelievable.

32 posted on 05/31/2011 7:33:53 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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This couldn’t help but remind me of when harmonica virtuoso and Hohner “Featured Artist” John Popper of Blues Traveler was pulled over in his Mercedes SUV, when clocked at 111mph in Washington State.

When police searched the car with a police dog, they found four rifles, nine handguns, brass knuckles and a switchblade knife in a secret compartment.

They also found a Taser, night vision goggles and a small amount of marijuana. The vehicle was also equipped with flashing emergency headlights, a siren and a public address system.

And all of it, excepting the marijuana, brass knuckles and switchblade, was legal.

John Popper is a firm believer in the 2nd Amendment. He sometimes appears on stage with a sidearm.


34 posted on 05/31/2011 8:08:57 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: marktwain; Travis McGee

“We have the right to ensure our employers are helpless any time our job requires us to interact with them. Our safety is important. Their safety, as our employers, not so much.” — The State


35 posted on 05/31/2011 8:09:26 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: marktwain

Sooner or later, such confrontations and unconstitutional confiscations will result in a war between police and actual Americans.


49 posted on 05/31/2011 9:02:41 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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New Mexico is lunatic country.

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55 posted on 05/31/2011 9:40:32 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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73 posted on 06/02/2011 10:56:44 AM PDT by CedarDave (I agree with Obama's immigration comments in El Paso: We do need moats filled with alligators)
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