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To: Berlin_Freeper

Simple official story has changed too many times for it to be veritable.

Originally the reports were of 71 shots upon the victim.

Then the reports from the Sheriff were of only 6 of the 71 shots having struck their target.

Most reports on the web now indicate he was struck by 60 of the 71 shots fired.

It’s as though the story is scrubbed and rescrubbed to fit whatever agenda is at hand.

IMHO, from the video, the team making the assault behaved similar to the type of individuals who lack virtue and wouldn’t discount planting weapons, drugs, or any other evidence at the scene to cover up their criminal actions.

Transcripts of the SWAT Cmdr don’t seem to be consistent.
http://azstarnet.com/online/pdf/pdf_1dcb28b4-8825-11e0-b417-001cc4c002e0.html

They first claim the residents were bad guys, part of an extensive 4 house drug cartel, drug running operation, who had situational awareness of anybody watching them. After the shooting, they receive calls of wounded innocent people being reported at other address numbers, which didn’t exist, so their immediate plan is to go next door and breach that house looking for wounded civilians from errant rounds of the initial assault. All of this happening while a 4 yr old child is still in the house they first attacked, had called the mother out and she surrendered to their custody.

If they assumed this was a dangerous situation, really didn’t know all the address numbers, nor even the name of the person whom they were going after, assumed he had eyes in the back of his head, used weapons which would penetrate walls for blocks in their assault, then reacted to breach the neighbor’s house, but with intent of looking for wounded bystanders,.....wouldn’t anybody with tactical sense first be more cautious of conducting a frontal assault on an overwatch position?

The victim had previously been reported as having body armor and an M16/AR15. SWAT team cmdr reported the victim was only wearing boxer shorts and obviously dead, shot many times with exit wounds in his head, arm, leg, back, arms over his head, laying down with lots of brain matter, bone fragments in the walls and lots of blood,...so much that he was declared dead by a doctor watching via a video on a robot which had bumped into the victim several times to provoke a response, without any movement.

The body armor they discovered was in a 3’x2’ plastic storage container in the garage with a Border patrol hat (aside,..he was a Marine,..sure that wasn’t a DI hat?)

In the transcript, the SWAT CMDR is quoted, “Um, since I’m not going to do a report, can I throw a few more things in that we saw?”

Why wouldn’t the Cmdr at the scene, conducting the operation prepare a formal report? This all falls on the head of those who relieved him of reporting and that person or persons needs to be held fully responsible, including proof that they have not been planting evidence to coverup their inappropriate behavior.

On top of all of this, the SWAT CMDR was scared during the shooting, which after the event now is fairly well documented as being an entirely one sided altercation.

IMHO, there is far more evidence to warrant a SWAT operation on the home of the persons directing these operations than the victims.

The cops have created a culture of perceiving the public as suspects and reinforcements as bodies, while they simply crave adrenaline rushes, then get scared and look for safety. They aren’t saving anybody other than their own lust for control.

This is why military commanders train to prepare 5 paragraph orders. It might not satiate the glandular lust for an adrenaline rush, but it keeps wherewithal controlling deadly force prior to and during the execution of the orders.

This report indicates all their behavior was learned response to a perceived threat when gunfire erupts, then just a series of learned tactics to control an unknown situation, but they all have begun based upon sloppy serving of a warrant and grossly inadequate police work.


44 posted on 05/28/2011 4:45:16 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr
Take a bow, CVENGR.
48 posted on 05/28/2011 4:47:35 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Cvengr
This report indicates all their behavior was learned response to a perceived threat when gunfire erupts, then just a series of learned tactics to control an unknown situation

A conditioned response acquired from the television and movies. Reinforced by poor training.

IIRC the standard issue M16A2 rifle is three round burst, you have to make an effort to keep pulling the trigger. Are they using the full auto version? Why?

85 posted on 05/28/2011 5:43:58 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: Cvengr

Best report on the whole matter I’ve seen.

On all these threads on this subject, some people ask, why are so many Free Republicans up in arms, so to speak, about this? Do they want legalized drugs? Do they hate cops?

No.

The answer is simple.

We love, cherish, and honor our FREEDOM from government that is the very essence of being an American.

Our worry is that it is a very short fall on the slippery slope for these types of tactics to be used against us for political reasons.

Don’t think so?

Perhaps. But it really does concern us.

That is why so many worry about it.

The cure (war against drugs) is far worse than the disease (drug abuse).


106 posted on 05/28/2011 6:26:11 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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