Posted on 05/28/2011 1:49:58 AM PDT by petitfour
Records released by the Pima County Sheriff's Department this week show that the four houses served with search warrants the morning of May 5 - when Jose Guerena was shot and killed by a SWAT team - are less than four miles apart and are all connected to the Guerena family.
And while initial reports were that doctors told the Guerena family that Jose had been shot 60 times, the Pima County medical examiner's preliminary report says he was shot 22 times. In its sole briefing on the incident, the Sheriff's Department said SWAT team members fired 71 rounds.
Aside from releasing more than 500 pages of documents about the incident, the department has remained mum since the May 10 briefing.
The raid netted drugs, large amounts of cash, bulletproof vests, about 30 cellphones and a stolen vehicle, records show, but no arrests have been made.
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A lot more assertions, anyway.
Over 71 rounds and only 22 hit?
Trigger-happy AND poor shots. A bad combination.
No drugs or large amounts of cash were found inside Jose Guerena's home, but detectives seized a Colt .38-caliber handgun, paperwork, tax returns including one with Jose and Graciela Celaya's name, insurance papers, bank statements and a bank card, reports show. Another report said detectives found body armor in a hallway closet and a U.S. Border Patrol hat in the garage.
Yep. He clearly was a drug lord, who had finished a 12-hour shift in a mine.
If SWAT could spin any harder, then they would be SWATting themselves.
You bring up a good point. Did Jose Guerena work three days in a row doing the night shift?
As for 22 wounds versus 60, dead is dead. Without firing a weapon. I’d like to see the video of the man pointing a weapon at them and saying, “I’ve got something for you.”
Based on what's out so far, this is just total BS and they're trying to cover their butts for making a bad call in a situation they should never have created in the first place. Damn, if he had a regular job they could have served him a warrant any time they wanted right at his job. Or, would they have needed a SWAT team to do that as well?
I swear, the guy was executed because his brother was a jackass criminal, apparently.
Can you just imagine if they start applying that on a large scale?
Who doesn’t have a nutcase family member, or the loose term “family member by marriage”...what does that mean, exactly...stepmother’s second cousin; wife’s stepbrother’s third cousin??
You all might want to rethink your invitations to the family Christmas Party this year...lest you become an unwitting “associate.”
“Shouldn’t a USMC veteran with no criminal record be given the benefit of the doubt rather than being seen as a potential threat?”
You’re kidding, right? Don’t you know Janet “Big Sis” Napolitano considers former military people to be amoung those most likely to pose a threat to our country.
• 9:33 a.m., Jose and Graciela Celaya's house, 6200 block of West Oklahoma Street. Most of the cash and drugs that detectives seized were found here, where Alejandro Guerena's wife, Pauline, and child were found, along with Graciela Celaya, two unidentified women and another child.Pauline Guerena let detectives inside the home, where they found a large shoebox under a bed containing about $94,000, a bag of marijuana in the stove, ammunition, an AK-47 rifle, other guns and bulletproof vests. Seven vehicles were found at the residence and drug-sniffing dogs alerted officers to the smell of narcotics on most of the vehicles.
That's quite a bit of money but it's not illegal to own it AFAIK. So this is where they found "most of the drugs" and that is described as "a bag of marijuana in the stove." A trash bag full? A gallon baggie full? A quart ziplock? A snack-sized ziplock?
Of course the obligatory media report of an AK-47 with no mention of whether it's full-auto (legal with proper paperwork) or a semi-auto which is very common and legal with no special permit required.
The drug-sniffing dog alerted to "narcotics" in "most of the vehicles." Given that 90% of all paper currency has detectable amounts of cocaine on it that's not particularly notable. Do those dogs tell their handlers which "narcotic" they are alerting to? One bark for pot, two barks for crack, three for meth?
When you have to resort to unfounded character assassination to make a point you have no point.
Do you agree then that those pushing a legalize drugs agenda are scum?
My boss is a Gulf war vet and he still has his body armor and kevlar helmet.
I have a NYPD hat{two of them really}.
I also have the new generation BDU jacket.
Do I have to worry about getting raided/
No, I think statist bootlickers are scum. Un-American scum.
I also think people who make unfounded accusations that FReepers are “pro-drug” are scum.
You are badly informed because there have been pro-drugs threads posted on FR.
As you should well know.
Do you even know what that makes you look like to hard working law abiding conservative Americans?
Hint: Not good.
Start with the University of Texas tower shooter Charles Whitman....then of course Lee Harvey Oswald....
Not always a good defense.
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