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Mac malware scam grows legs – MacGuard needs no password
Silicon Republic ^ | 27 May 2011 | John Kennedy

Posted on 05/27/2011 7:14:04 AM PDT by for-q-clinton

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To: for-q-clinton; Swordmaker
>> You know, like the thousands of real self-replicating viruses that have plagued Windows over the past decade.

> Really? Ok, let's see that list that has plagued the latest version of windows. After all we are only talking about OSX here and not the previous disaster of an OS OS9. But I'll even concede and let you show the THOUSANDS of self-replicating viruses going back to Vista the previous OS for Windows. Heck if you will show Thousands than I'll even say XP is fair game. Or was that just another Macbot insult that macbots NEVER do and will say it never happened when called out on it later?

Don't call me a "macbot", since I'm not one.

I said "decade" and I meant "decade". Of course XP is fair game, as it was the major OS of that decade.

OS-X is 10 years old. In 2001, in the Windows side, WinXP was brand new, Win2K was current, Win98 was still in use. On the Mac side, OS-X was brand new, and OS9 was in fairly wide use. There were a good number of OS9 and Win98 viruses at that time.

Within a year or two, Win98 and OS9 were gone, Win2K was old hat, and WinXP and OS-X were current. OS-X has been through half a dozen major releases. Vista fell over and died, and Win7 is current. However, WinXP remained the major Windows version in use until quite recently.

Between 2001 and the present, there have indeed been thousands of Windows viruses in the wild. Most attacked WinXP because it was the most popular and widespread OS in the history of the world, and it had plenty of vulnerabilities to exploit. Luckily for those of us who work with Windows all day every day, Win7 has closed most of those vulnerabilities, and is a very solid and secure OS. Windows has come a long way in the past decade. Those of us who have been computing for many decades (myself, four) consider that Windows is finally growing up in this most recent one.

Meanwhile, I'm tired of you displaying your apparent ignorance of history and the industry. I daresay you would be a much more interesting correspondent and commenter if you knew more about the topics you so like to rant about, so I encourage you to read up on them. Good night.

121 posted on 06/01/2011 12:57:24 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: for-q-clinton
Or was that just another Macbot insult that macbots NEVER do and will say it never happened when called out on it later?

In what way was a comment about the sheer number of malware afflicting Windows of ANY variety an insult? Or are you now an avatar or personification of Microsoft Windows in all of its incarnations, for-q-Clinton?

122 posted on 06/01/2011 1:37:09 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: JohnnyP
I visited Drudge this weekend and the thing tried to get me.

Same thing on my Wife's computer. I thought it was Drudge. Force quit and no problem.
123 posted on 06/01/2011 1:44:16 AM PDT by PA Engineer (SP/AW12: Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: for-q-clinton
Glad you caught it before it caught you. But man I can so see most mac users clicking OK to that.

Why?
124 posted on 06/01/2011 1:45:08 AM PDT by PA Engineer (SP/AW12: Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: for-q-clinton
After all we are only talking about OSX here and not the previous disaster of an OS OS9.

Never had a problem with OS9. What problems did you have?
125 posted on 06/01/2011 1:46:29 AM PDT by PA Engineer (SP/AW12: Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: PA Engineer

If I hadn’t read about it on another thread I may not have known what to do. But, I remembered someone else said it happened when they went to Drudge, and they used force quit.

Kind of scary that it can take over your computer to that extent.


126 posted on 06/01/2011 5:36:04 AM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: PA Engineer

Pretty much all the issues Jobs acknowledged and more. The biggest issue was the constant crashing.


127 posted on 06/01/2011 6:32:04 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Swordmaker

The old bait and switch. Put the most current version of OSX up against a 10 year old operating system.

Kind of like comparing Windows 7 to OS9 then declaring Mac OS sucks because Win7 is so much better than OS9.


128 posted on 06/01/2011 6:33:31 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: dayglored

So OSX hasn’t had any minor or major revisions in the past 10 years?

Also where are the list of thousands of viruses? Not malware, but self replicating viruses (be sure to include all the most restrictive qualifiers in that definition of virus as the Macbots do).

I’ll be waiting for that list of thousands. As a bare minimum that means you need at least a list of 2,000 to support your claim.


129 posted on 06/01/2011 6:35:37 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: for-q-clinton; Swordmaker
> So OSX hasn’t had any minor or major revisions in the past 10 years?

Of course it has. Why do you ask such a dumb question? Please get back to me when you've re-read the comments above, and understand the topic, which is "the last decade of Windows and Mac operating systems".

> Also where are the list of thousands of viruses? Not malware, but self replicating viruses (be sure to include all the most restrictive qualifiers in that definition of virus as the Macbots do). I’ll be waiting for that list of thousands. As a bare minimum that means you need at least a list of 2,000 to support your claim.

There have been dozens of articles posted in the tech press for years, mostly by the Windows antivirus researchers, of course, which differ in the details, but basically say there have been upwards of 10,000 Windows malware releases, with minor variants taking the total to around 100,000. Of those 10,000 basic ones, some percentage are true viruses according to the definition we use here. Depending on which researcher wrote a given article, the figure varies between 20% and 30% for the ones I recall reading. 20-30% of 10,000 qualifies as "thousands".

Not surprisingly, the true viruses have becomes far less numerous with the advent of Win7, and now most of the attacks are social engineering attacks on the user, like the one for the Mac that started this thread.

No, I'm not going to list thousands of virus names here, any more than I would list all the names of the residents of New York City -- it should be sufficient to say "around 8 million people" because that's the generally accepted figure. If you don't want to take the word of the AV researchers, fine, but then I'll ask that you take your trolling to them rather than clutter this thread any further.

Have a good day.

130 posted on 06/01/2011 7:15:26 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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