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To: arderkrag

“Darko”?

Well, son, the “general” will get a chance to present a defense about how you justify murdering civilians en masse.

People, that is the point. The murdered were not legitimate military targets, they were civilians.

The fact that in the civilians’ religion, they wish to dominate is actually beside the point. The fact that they were civilian non-combatants and therefore protected under the Law of War controls the analysis.


8 posted on 05/27/2011 7:02:44 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

How dare you make sense! The nerve!


9 posted on 05/27/2011 8:29:08 AM PDT by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country.----------In the same way Rush is balance, I am consensus.)
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To: yldstrk
Look, there is evidence that war crimes were committed at Srebrenica. Some 400+ of the bodies did show evidence of blindfolds and ligatures. But there is a huge difference between "war crimes' and "genocide".

People, that is the point. The murdered were not legitimate military targets, they were civilians.

That's not really true. The women and children were separated out and bussed to safety. Virtually all the men were military age, some with military records, and officially all the men of fighting age in Bosnia were issued a general draft order from the Bosnian Muslim government that they were officially conscripted to serve in the Army. So to call these people all "civilians" is inaccurate. Some were even observed by the UN Peacekeepers in firefights against the Serbs at the time.

What's missing in all of the coverage is the context of what happened at Srebrenica -- they want you to believe that Mladic just marched a bunch of Muslim civilians out into a field and executed them en masse for no reason other than to create an ethnically pure Greater Serbia -- and that's just plain nonsense -- evidenced by many Muslims escaping TO Serbia to get away from Izetbegovic.

The factual context is that the Muslim warlord, Naser Oric, was using Srebrenica as a military base of operations, knowing that the Serbs couldn't attack it. Oric's men were killing Serb civilians, women, children and old people and then escaping back to Srebrenica so the Serbs couldn't touch him.

Meanwhile, on the political front, the Izetbegovic Muslim regime wanted NATO to intervene on their behalf. They exaggerated the death count, and engaged in a huge PR campaign in the West to whip up people to demand intervention. But it wasn't giving them what they needed -- an event so ghastly, so large scale that it would be impossible to look the other way. When word came that the Serbs were about to attack Srebrenica, Oric and his men abandoned the town. These aren't just my words, they are also the words of some reputable military men on the Muslim side. Srebrenica was deliberately set up as a political trap for the Serbs, to give Izetbegovic his high casualty number event to get the West to intervene.

Immediately after Srebrenica, there was little written about it. Nothing showed up in the papers for weeks afterward. Then it burst into the news as "unassailable genocide" and anyone who questioned the facts was immediately called "a genocide denier". Why?

Because we needed an excuse to intervene and bomb the Serbs, and also Operation Storm was being carried out in neighboring Croatia, expelling hundreds of thousands of Serb civilians from Croatia. Because the US had helped the Croatian government hire MPRI (filled with ex-US military officers) to train the Croats, we had a dog in the fight, and it was solidly on the Croat side. Srebrenica needed to be made so big and so terrible and so unquestionable that Operation Storm would look like "the Serbs got what they deserved" -- no sympathy even though these civilians had nothing to do with Bosnia or with Srebrenica.

The biggest reason why any of this should be relevant to an ordinary American with no Balkan ties is:

1. Srebrenica gave birth to the myth of "Muslim innocent victimhood", which to this day is celebrated every year. Srebrenica not only opened Western hearts to Muslims, it opened Europe and the US' doors to Muslims.

2. The first known al Qaeda documents were discovered in Bosnia and date to several years before the Bosnian war began.

3. When Osama bin Laden was stripped of his Saudi passport, he was issued a Bosnian one.

4. Several of the 9/11 hijackers served in Bosnia fighting the Serbs, and two of them made a film blaming 9/11 on Bosnia.

5. Srebrenica turned NATO from a purely defensive Cold War relic into an aggressive fighting force, and we have been involved in nearly continuous wars or occupations ever since. Today, Obama doesn't even bother to consult Congress on military actions like Libya, he just uses NATO -- and that extra-Constitional action all began with Bosnia, post Srebrenica.

6. With the creation of the ICTY to prosecute Serbs, the US has actively deferred more and more power to a world body to handle the international prosecution of every one of its enemies. Judge Goldstone was even recycled from the ICTY to use against Israel in the Goldstone Report. They are threatening Gadaffi with the same style prosecution.

7. Srebrenica became the excuse for Kosovo, even though they are far removed and were different conflicts. And Kosovo became the excuse to import even more Muslim Albanians to the US, and to spit on the centuries long history of Westphalian national sovereignty.

Back to Mladic, does he have a chance at a fair trial at the Hague, whether he is guilty of war crimes or not? Hell, no! No chance, not when a entire NWO theatrical production that spawned life as we know it in a post-Westphalian age is at stake! His trial will be just one more piece of globalist theater, although entertaining to anyone who still has any sort of analytical mind and a moral compass, so that they can actually discern the BS from reality. Hopefully they will also have a bit of sang froid so that the disparity between justice and the sham of it doesn't make them want to bang their head against the wall.

10 posted on 05/27/2011 11:24:57 AM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: yldstrk

You apparently don’t have all the facts.


11 posted on 06/01/2011 8:29:19 AM PDT by montyspython (This thread needs more cowbell)
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