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To: sickoflibs; garandgal; GailA; org.whodat; dalebert; Qbert; jeltz25; ncalburt
So, the general consensus is that we cannot give every senior everything that is possible for one senior.

It begs the great moral dilemma of our age: How much and who decides?

Obviously, when these are government programs the government decides through the direction of democratically elected officials. And, elected officials will NEVER advocate for "rationing" or cutting somebody off. NEVER. Won't happen.

And that means the US and every Western Democracy will go into sovereign default. Complete financial destruction...so that ONLY the total destruction of all wealth and resources will be the end determinant.

32 posted on 05/26/2011 10:38:56 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner; garandgal; GailA; org.whodat; dalebert; Qbert; jeltz25; ncalburt
RE :”It begs the great moral dilemma of our age: How much and who decides? Obviously, when these are government programs the government decides through the direction of democratically elected officials. And, elected officials will NEVER advocate for “rationing” or cutting somebody off. NEVER. Won't happen. And that means the US and every Western Democracy will go into sovereign default. Complete financial destruction...so that ONLY the total destruction of all wealth and resources will be the end determinant.

See, I agree with that. That was why it was so important for House Republicans to keep their REAL promise to defund the NEW entitlement Obamacare before it becomes politically impossible to ‘take that away’ as it will be characterized. But they gave up on that real promise and moved to medicare oppose of last years positions which p,,ed off many of those here.

Medicare is a very difficult issue that splits even many conservatives here and I appreciate everyones opinions on it. It is morally complex and both practically and politically difficult to deal with because it is a ponzi tax scheme sold as an entitlement that we own, which we really cannot own.

I been reading both sides here the past few weeks and both sides have valid arguments. It is not back and white moral clean issue as Rush tries to make it out.

The 55 threshold political scheme negates most of the other arguments for the Ryan plan, it is it's weakest link that was added to try to get political support.

33 posted on 05/26/2011 11:16:14 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: Mariner; garandgal; GailA; org.whodat; dalebert; Qbert; jeltz25; ncalburt
RE :”It begs the great moral dilemma of our age: How much and who decides? Obviously, when these are government programs the government decides through the direction of democratically elected officials. And, elected officials will NEVER advocate for “rationing” or cutting somebody off. NEVER. Won't happen. And that means the US and every Western Democracy will go into sovereign default. Complete financial destruction...so that ONLY the total destruction of all wealth and resources will be the end determinant.

See, I agree with that. That was why it was so important for House Republicans to keep their REAL promise to defund the NEW entitlement Obamacare before it becomes politically impossible to ‘take that away’ as it will be characterized. But they gave up on that real promise and moved to medicare oppose of last years positions which p,,ed off many of those here.

Medicare is a very difficult issue that splits even many conservatives here and I appreciate everyones opinions on it. It is morally complex and both practically and politically difficult to deal with because it is a ponzi tax scheme sold as an entitlement that we own, which we really cannot own.

I been reading both sides here the past few weeks and both sides have valid arguments. It is not back and white moral clean issue as Rush tries to make it out.

The 55 threshold political scheme negates most of the other arguments for the Ryan plan, it is it's weakest link that was added to try to get political support.

34 posted on 05/26/2011 11:16:14 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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