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BREAKING NEWS: Democrat Kathy Hochul wins special election for US House seat in NY — AP
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Posted on 05/24/2011 7:19:58 PM PDT by Perdogg

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To: Zhang Fei

Conservatives need to go on the attack against the international bankers of Wall Street.

It’s a casino whose losses were subsidized by we taxpayers. It is not the bastion of capitalism as they like to portray it. Capitalism is about taking risk and producing tangible stuff and paying the piper when you lose. Wall St has become about creating fictitious intangible products and games that benefit only the dealers within the casino. It isn’t about creating broad value. The compensation plans for CEOs and hedge funds are about creating volatility instead of value, of which they both then game to their own advantage.

Wall Street put Obama into office. We need to create a nation with real industry and real jobs are created and not a nation where swindlers always win and we taxpayers lose. Far too much of our economy has gone to the financial services sector and it is only to their benefit and not to the benefit of the nation.


221 posted on 05/25/2011 8:57:05 AM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: jeltz25; Perdogg

This was a VERY expensive loss. Corwin(R) herself spent about $2.6 million of her own money to get about 40,000 votes. That comes out to $68/vote. (By contrast, Meg Whitman spent about $144 million out of her own pocket to get about 4 million votes in last year’s governors race in California. That comes out to roughly $35/vote.) Hochul(D) was surely outspent.

Outside money: the main spenders for Corwin were $700K from Karl Rove’s American Crossroads, $100K from the American Action Network, and $425K from the NRCC (totaling about $1.2 million).

For Hochul, it wound up as $371K from the House Majority PAC, $111K from the Communications Workers of America, $75K from SEIU 1199, and $267K from the DCCC (totalling $824K). Hochul herself raised around a million bucks.

Back in April, when Corwin seemed like a viable conservative, I sent her $100.

Note to self: NEVER, ever send money to a candidate who spends $68/vote and loses!
(Corwin could have passed out $50 bills to voters and come out ahead.)


222 posted on 05/25/2011 8:58:29 AM PDT by saltus (God's Will be done)
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To: Thunder90
I expect the Dems to run the “Cuts to Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps and Pell Grants” line heavily, especially in swing states, important Senate races, and in congressional districts that we took in 2010 (or are otherwise seen as vulnerable by the Dems). In fact, the Democratic National Congressional Committee and the DSCC are already running using this.

Yep, its 1995-1996 all over again. I thought that voters this time around might be a little wiser than to buy the "Mean ole' republicans want to Kill Granny and Starve Little Timmy". If there is any positives from the election, we have discovered that the democrats in 2012 are just going to run the same old 90's playbook. The bad news is, it still seems, at least in this election, to have worked. The good news is this is NOT 1995-1996, we are in much worse financial shape and this time around we have Fox News, the Internet and the Tea Parties to spread our message. Republicans need to formulate a response quickly and hammer it from now to election day.

223 posted on 05/25/2011 9:02:28 AM PDT by apillar
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To: b4its2late

Seniors on the East Coast have been granted what amounts to temporary waivers against the effects of Obamacare. Obama put off the requirements that states revise the Advantage plans. Seniors in WA state have not been so fortunate. Our Democrat governor decided to rush through state mandates involving Obamacare because our Attorney General signed on to the Florida Obamacare law suit against her wishes. Seniors in WA State received notices last year that their Advantage plans were no longer available and that they had a choice of buying a plan at a much higher rate or going without.


224 posted on 05/25/2011 9:03:58 AM PDT by Eva
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To: b4its2late

Seniors on the East Coast have been granted what amounts to temporary waivers against the effects of Obamacare. Obama put off the requirements that states revise the Advantage plans. Seniors in WA state have not been so fortunate. Our Democrat governor decided to rush through state mandates involving Obamacare because our Attorney General signed on to the Florida Obamacare law suit against her wishes. Seniors in WA State received notices last year that their Advantage plans were no longer available and that they had a choice of buying a plan at a much higher rate or going without.


225 posted on 05/25/2011 9:04:09 AM PDT by Eva
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To: manc

This was a VERY expensive loss. Corwin(R) herself spent about $2.6 million of her own money to get about 40,000 votes. That comes out to $68/vote. (By contrast, Meg Whitman spent about $144 million out of her own pocket to get about 4 million votes in last year’s governors race in California. That comes out to roughly $35/vote.) Hochul(D) was surely outspent.

Outside money: the main spenders for Corwin were $700K from Karl Rove’s American Crossroads, $100K from the American Action Network, and $425K from the NRCC (totaling about $1.2 million).

For Hochul, it wound up as $371K from the House Majority PAC, $111K from the Communications Workers of America, $75K from SEIU 1199, and $267K from the DCCC (totalling $824K). Hochul herself raised around a million bucks.

Back in April, when Corwin seemed like a viable conservative, I sent her $100.

Note to self: NEVER, ever send money to a candidate who spends $68/vote and loses!
(Corwin could have passed out $50 bills to voters and come out ahead.)

It worries me that we waste so much money on candidates that fail us.


226 posted on 05/25/2011 9:04:16 AM PDT by saltus (God's Will be done)
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To: aquaverde

To be honest I have to beleive Jack Davis 8% steal is only part of the issue. I still beleive that the corrupt nature of the people of New York bares the bulk of the blame.

If you need an honest thing done don’t ask new yorkers to do it.


227 posted on 05/25/2011 9:08:18 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: saltus
I wish I had a hundred to give away I never give money to the GOP but to candidates but you're right, what a waste of money
228 posted on 05/25/2011 9:16:28 AM PDT by manc (Hannity is a fraud , he admitted he's socially liberal on his show, he's took us for suckers)
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To: hal ogen

I live just east of this district and am disgusted that Jack Asshat called himself a teapartier.

Most conservative NYers (usually upstate) vote with their feet eventually as I plan to do so in the next 5-10 yrs.


229 posted on 05/25/2011 9:28:39 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: Perdogg

Dirty tricks...it’s how they plan to win. Pay attention people!!


230 posted on 05/25/2011 9:30:49 AM PDT by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: apillar

The only problem is that there is a lot of vunerable freshmen GOP congresspersons who’se races may be swayed towards the Democrat using such tactics. All the dems need is 25 house seats and Pelosi will have the gavel back.


231 posted on 05/25/2011 9:36:59 AM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: jackv

There should be a recount even if she lost by 10 points. This should be standard procedure for any election now.


232 posted on 05/25/2011 10:17:39 AM PDT by ingeborg
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To: Perdogg

After this election, there will be a lot more FAKE Tea Party candidates in the next election.


233 posted on 05/25/2011 10:48:52 AM PDT by PMAS
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To: XenaLee
Why the hell can’t we do the same thing then? Play the same game the Dems play, or better yet, beat them at their own game.

The difference is that the Republican Party has not yet been taken over by the Tea Party, especially in New England. It's easy for this kind of split to occur. You may not see as much success with this tactic in more conservative parts of the country.

On the other hand, the Democratic Party has been taken over by out-and-out socialists, from the President to your local school board. Why would hard lefties vote for anyone else?

234 posted on 05/25/2011 11:00:24 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

WE didn’t lose the seat. THIS stupid SOB POS and his inability to think with anything but that tiny blob of brain like matter in his crotch lost it for us.

A damned shame it happened this way but we have a year and a few months to start taking it back.


235 posted on 05/25/2011 11:08:32 AM PDT by Postman
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To: Joe 6-pack

Great contrast of what Republicans voted for and what they actually got. I would have voted for the Tea Party guy.


236 posted on 05/25/2011 11:12:04 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: sickoflibs; All
As I see it, every Republican candidate in 2012 is going to be asked repeatedly to state clearly his or her position on the future of Medicare, and to a lesser extent Medicaid.

Each candidate will have the opportunity to (a) tell the truth, or (b) dissemble and pander to the "I paid for it" crowd.

My take is that if enough candidates run and win on the pandering option, timely reform will be impossible regardless of whether or not the GOP takes control of the government.

237 posted on 05/25/2011 11:21:45 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Populism is antithetical to conservatism.)
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To: Notary Sojac
RE :"As I see it, every Republican candidate in 2012 is going to be asked repeatedly to state clearly his or her position on the future of Medicare, and to a lesser extent Medicaid. Each candidate will have the opportunity to (a) tell the truth, or (b) dissemble and pander to the "I paid for it" crowd."

Sounds reasonable.

I wish they would fess up on the SS surplus too. I even heard Jim DeMint agree with progressive (liberal) Dems on SS being safe because there is a trust fund which he admitted was 'borrowed'. If you loaned money to a gamble-holic would it be safe? It might be safe for you only if the gambler can find newer suckers to loan him more money, it's not safe for them.

238 posted on 05/25/2011 11:38:47 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: April Lexington

It was a fake party designed to do exactly what it done.


239 posted on 05/25/2011 12:30:15 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Perdogg

Why barf. We knew this would happen. Barf would be if we had no idea and expecting the Republican to win and then didn’t.


240 posted on 05/25/2011 1:10:05 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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