Man Burned After Prayer Group Dispute

Fox NY ^ | 5/23/11

[AppyPappy]

It’s all about “control”

[Christian Engineer Mass]

Wow. I hate to say it, but it really would be huge national news if a Christian pastor had said something and it caused window smashes, 100 people chanting for someone to leave town, and attempted murder.

It’s the 100 people part that gets me. **If that’s true**, it’s a sizeable chunk of the congregation.

[WaterBoard]

Elbaum said that last year the rabbi of the synagogue, David Twersky, announced no one should pray outside the main synagogue.

I am not Jewish, but this does not seem correct. Pretty sure that I have seen Hasidic Jews in NY praying outside (Western Wall for example).

[nuconvert]

religious fanatics are dangerous. period

[MsLady]

WOW, that’s totally insane. God bless him, I can’t imagine anything more painful than burns :(

[subterfuge]

obama voters, all.

[NY.SS-Bar9]

I think this is the group that voted 100% for Hillary for Senate.

[Gondring]

This is a scary bunch, growing fast via birth rate.

[subterfuge]

Wasn’t it more like %105?

[MrEdd]

But no more dangerous than people who view sincerely religious people as fanaticle and dangerous.

That would be Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Jong Il, and a fair number of freepers.

[wtd]

Instant skin-grafts: Sci-fi style spray-gun heals severe burns 'within days' Using the victims own stem cells, this procedure could minimize the pain and lessen the healing period.

[nuconvert]

Lol. What a ridiculous statement. According to you, a “fair number of FReepers” are as dangerous as Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, Kim Jung Il. Lol.
If you really believed that, you’d be foolish to continue to visit this site.

[tacticalogic]

That’s going “all in” on the victim card.

[Christian Engineer Mass]

Who is a scary bunch?

[PapaBear3625]

It’s all about “control”

Exactly. It looks like some fraction of the congregation didn't like Rabbi Twersky's theology, and decided to leave the synagogue and pray by themselves, and this upset the majority who decided to stay.

[AppyPappy]

In a cult, you are not allowed to leave. Leaving implies that the individual has power rather than the group and that there is a possibility that the cult is wrong. Very dangerous to group-think

[PapaBear3625]

It’s the 100 people part that gets me. **If that’s true**, it’s a sizeable chunk of the congregation.

I would guess that a number of neighbors would have noticed that big a gathering, and several may be willing to come forward as witnesses.

It looks like a pattern of violence and intimidation against the victim's exercising of his First Amendment rights, a conspiracy by a majority of an identifiable group.

A good civil rights lawyer would have Mr Rottenberg owning the synagogue building.

[Gondring]

Who is a scary bunch?

The Grand Rebbe David Twersky and the New Square Skverer hasidim.

[Gondring]

It looks like a pattern of violence and intimidation against the victim's exercising of his First Amendment rights, a conspiracy by a majority of an identifiable group.

That's why they are pushing to get a Federal investigation. Even though this news escaped the highly controlled New Square information wall (only because of the severe injury), the local authorities are quite used to turning a blind eye.