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To: Brown Deer
Okay I am confused wouldn't this mean Obama isn't natural born if his dad wasn't a citizen? Or am I confused which could very well be.
3 posted on 05/23/2011 12:58:28 AM PDT by funfan
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To: funfan

“Obama isn’t natural born if his dad wasn’t a citizen?”
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That was my understanding, but apparently there has never been a court case to set a precedent for anyone.

If Obozo can get away with being called a NBC, ANYONE can.


4 posted on 05/23/2011 1:10:19 AM PDT by AlexW (Proud eligibility skeptic)
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To: funfan
You're not confused.

No laws apply to soetoro/obama/the messiah. he's speshual. doncha know that? LOL

5 posted on 05/23/2011 1:13:49 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: funfan

Natural born citizen is an eligibility requirement to be President of the U.S.A. (A natural born citizen is born in a nation of citizen parents. This is natural law.)

It is NOT a statutory type of citizenship.

The statutory citizenship types can be found below:

USCIS - Citizenship

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD

1) Native born citizenship - born in the United States. Gov. Bobby Jindal was born in Louisiana to parents who were Indian citizens residing in the U.S.A. legally. There are exception to this, such as the children of foreign diplomats and those not in the country legally.

2) Derived citizenship - children born to U.S. citizens in foreign lands “derive” their citizenship from their parents. Sen. John S. McCain was born in Panama to U.S. citizen parents.

3) Naturalized citizenship - foreign born individuals who naturalize as U.S. citizens. Gov. Schwarznegger is a naturalized citizen originally from Austria.

A U.S. Representative or U.S. Senator can be any of the above three and serve in public office.

Only a U.S. President must be both 1) and 2) above to serve as President.


6 posted on 05/23/2011 1:15:52 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NOT FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT)
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To: funfan

Yes.

More news at 11.


9 posted on 05/23/2011 1:49:16 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: funfan

You are not confused.

There is no court decision or precedent specifically defining who is NBC and who is not.

My personal opinion, after reading the several Supreme Court decisions bearing on the issue, is that if the Court addresses the issue it will decide that NBC = native born. Arguably this has been the case since the Founding, and the position was enhanced by the 14th Amendment.

IOW, all those who are citizens at birth are NBC. Including, unfortunately, children born in this country to illegal aliens. Of those born on US soil, only children born to diplomats with diplomatic immunity are excluded.

Some believe otherwise, and their arguments are not trivial, but claims that NBC requires the father or both parents to be US citizens are contentions, they are not facts.

I am fully aware of all the counter-arguments, I just happen to disagree with them.


15 posted on 05/23/2011 2:51:41 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: funfan

Okay I am confused wouldn’t this mean Obama isn’t natural born if his dad wasn’t a citizen? Or am I confused which could very well be.


http://www.scribd.com/doc/55105383/Executive-Summary-Re-NBC-Defined-in-Constitution-Plus-4-SCOTUS-Cases


33 posted on 05/23/2011 7:01:53 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: funfan
Okay I am confused wouldn't this mean Obama isn't natural born if his dad wasn't a citizen? Or am I confused which could very well be.

Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen of the USA; never has been, never will be; not in this lifetime; not in a past one; and probably not in a future lifetime.

83 posted on 05/23/2011 5:47:57 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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