 Chief Justice John Roberts, just making sure |
Stare decisis et non quieta movere.
(For those of you in Rio Linda, Chief Justice Roberts is a conservative Republican appointed by GWB.)
Posted on 05/22/2011 6:31:10 PM PDT by jdirt
MIAMI, Fla. – Are U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal natural-born citizens of the United States, and thus eligible for the presidency?
It's a simple question, but the answer may not be so easy.
The next national election is less than 18 months away, and both rising Republican stars have been touted as potential contenders for either the No. 1 or No. 2 spot on a presidential ticket.
But their eligibility is in doubt since both men's parents were not U.S. citizens at the time their future political children were born, WND can reveal. That factor is important because the Constitution mandates a presidential candidate to be a "natural-born citizen," a requirement that has dogged President Barack Obama since the 2008 campaign.
With 2011 being the apparent year of the birth certificate, Jindal this month released a copy of his own birth record, indicating he was born on American soil – specifically, Baton Rouge, La. – to parents who were born in India.
Based on that disclosure, the New Orleans Times-Picayune newspaper declared him to be qualified for the White House, stating, "Piyush Jindal was born at Woman's Hospital in Baton Rouge, a natural-born U.S. citizen, who like every other child born in America, could, constitutionally, grow up to be president."
Kyle Plotkin, Jindal's press secretary, echoed that proclamation, telling WND, "The governor is obviously a natural-born citizen."
Meanwhile, Marco Rubio was born in Miami, Fla., on May 28, 1971, to Mario and Oriales Rubio who were born in Cuba, though the senator has not released his birth certificate for the world to scrutinize.
Read more: Now popular Republicans 'not natural-born citizens' http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=297485#ixzz1N8MU2PlT
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Look up The Venus.
/possessor of Constitutional secret decoder ring
I have read the clause, but I don’t see anything in there that is as specific as many people here make it out to be. Unfotunately, there does not seem to be any definitive case law on this matter, which is why there is so much debate in the first place.
Okay, that would cover those who had already been born at the time the Constitution had been adopted. WHat about those who were born after the Constitution had been adopted? According to some here, they would not be "natural born citizens" because their parents were not born in the USA, even though they were.
My point here is not that these men were not qualified, but that some on here are applying definitions that cannot be supported by case law or historical application.
I think when Obama finally leaves office, they'll quietly drop it and we won't hear about this again.
Chief Justice John Roberts, just making sure |
Stare decisis et non quieta movere.
(For those of you in Rio Linda, Chief Justice Roberts is a conservative Republican appointed by GWB.)
I don’t know how this got out of hand.
The parents do not need to be born here. They just need to be citizens.
You comletely miss the point. Lincoln’s parents were both US citizens at the time of Lincoln’s birth. So Lincoln was a NBC and did not need to qualify under the second (grand-father) section of the eligibilty clause.
No one has ever claimed that someone’s parents had to be born in the United States as you continually try to make a strawman argument for.
Wasn’t Harrison Bounel a drug mule back in the 80’s .... used to stuff his colon with smack filled baloons on trips to Pokeystan with his gay lover.
Cheif Roberts swearing in Harrison Bounel, AKA Soebarkah.
I don’t think I’m missing the point at all. There are people on this very thread saying that both parents must also be born in the U.S., and the World Net Daily article linked also suggests it.
“Some would say no – including legal sources relied upon by America’s Founders – based on the foreign births of their parents, ...”
Strawman? How so?
The single half a quote you provided does not make for a claim that parents must be born as citizens. You will need to provide more as to who exactly is making such a claim because I have not seen or heard it.
Besides why bother me with it. I have never made such a claim at all.
The parents simply need to have been American citizens at the time of your birth.
Both of Lincoln’s parents were born in America and were citizens at the time of Lincoln’s birth.
A foolish answer, does it befit you?
A foolish answer, does it befit you?
No - The assertion is that the child must be born in the US, and that both parents be citizens at the time of birth.
The parents can have been born elsewhere, but then must have been naturalized.
If you want a civics lesson instead of mockery, see #96, where Nelson gets it exactly right, complete with an example that ought to make birthers (at least those of the non-Hillary branch) very uncomfortable.
Not right in everything, but he did include the “temporary travel abroad” case. That is a clear natural exemption, at least when one is on temporary travel in service to one’s nation. The case of vacation, business and other personal travel may be more questionable, but I would include it for travels of less than a year, where the traveling mother clearly is a permanent resident in our country.
And the father a citizen, also of permanent residency, or stationed permanently abroad on service to his country.
All they need to us look up this case:
US-98723499B - Obama vs. United Stated
Summary: Screw You, the constitution doesn’t matter, just go to Europe, disable the AVS on your campaign’s credit card donation system and let oversea’s money pave the way. Citizen “Shmitizen” who gives a crap.
If I’m wrong...show me where.
How about you back up your assertion? Vattel spoke of "parents who are citizens".
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