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T.D. Jakes to Franklin Graham: Apologize to Obama
Houston Chronicle ^ | 5/22/11

Posted on 05/22/2011 12:24:59 PM PDT by truthandlife

Bishop T.D. Jakes, a Dallas megachurch pastor who will be preaching at Lakewood Church during Memorial Day weekend, is calling out Franklin Graham on his his hesitancy to accept Obama as a Christian and asking he apologize for casting speculation onto the president’s faith.

We didn’t question the Christianity of President Bush when he said he accepted Christ, and I’m disappointed in Rev. Franklin Graham in that regard,” Jakes told Martin. ”…And I would hope that he would see the rationale in apologizing for such statements — because if the president’s faith is suspect, then all of our faiths are suspect, because the Bible is quite clear about what it takes to be saved and the president has been quite open about his accepting Christ and him openly confessing it before men. And if it’s good enough for the Bible it ought to be good enough for the rest of us.”

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KEYWORDS: christianobama; graham; jakes; obama
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To: truthandlife

TD Jakes - you are NOT to touch God’s anointed. And not strange you will disobey that rule because of color.


41 posted on 05/22/2011 1:00:20 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: hope

Big time!!


42 posted on 05/22/2011 1:01:03 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: ken21

for many black churches,

race is more important

than God.

You only missed a

great haiku by two is all.

Try again next fall

for many black church

es, race is more important

than God is, you see.

LOL, that's kink of fractured. Just havin' a little fun...

: > )

43 posted on 05/22/2011 1:01:24 PM PDT by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: truthandlife
I'm disappointed that TD Jakes will be preaching at Lakewood Church (Houston) over Memorial Day weekend.
He needs to keep his Franklin Graham comments to himself and his "preaching" in his own Dallas "church".
44 posted on 05/22/2011 1:02:11 PM PDT by Jane Long (2 Chron 7:14)
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To: ken21

ken21 wrote: “for many black churches,

race is more important

than God.”

I would question your use of the word “most”. If race wasn’t more important to black churches than God; they wouldn’t be “black” churches in the first place.

I’ll change my opinion when someone can give me a comprehensive list of “white” churches.


45 posted on 05/22/2011 1:02:21 PM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: Outlaw Woman
"Because GW displayed the 'fruits of the spirit'/evidence of his salvation that come naturally after accepting Christ. The madman in the WH has displayed not one indicator of those attributes."

Exactly! When did Bush once retaliate against the avalanche of criticism he faced during and after his presidency? It's called self-control, which is part of the fruit of the Holy Spirit. When did Obama ever not retaliate? What fruit of the Spirit has he ever demonstrated? Love? Joy? Patience? Peace? Goodness? Kindness? Faithfulness? Gentleness? Self-control? Gal 5:22-23. "You shall know them by their fruits." Matt 7:16

46 posted on 05/22/2011 1:02:41 PM PDT by Bed_Zeppelin
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To: faucetman

Race is thicker than Truth!


47 posted on 05/22/2011 1:02:49 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: stars & stripes forever

Seems that type of ministry which is so needed is few. Our youth are further away from the truth than ever before. Where are these narcissistic ministers.. they are preaching for the money.


48 posted on 05/22/2011 1:03:24 PM PDT by hope
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To: truthandlife

Last I heard Jakes doesn’t believe in the Trinity and if that’s still the case Jakes isn’t a Christian himself. One thing for sure, the Muslim dolt he thinks deserves an apology isn’t a Christian and in fact is actively working to cripple Christians in this country and to aid Muslims everywhere on the planet.


49 posted on 05/22/2011 1:07:42 PM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is insane but kept medicated and on golf courses to hide it)
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To: truthandlife; 240B

It is clear from this 2004 unedited interview by Cathleen Falsani with Obama that, even if one gives him the benefit of the doubt that he thinks of himself as a Christian, he is missing the very core beliefs of a Christian.

http://blog.beliefnet.com/stevenwaldman/2008/11/obamas-interview-with-cathleen.html


50 posted on 05/22/2011 1:08:24 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I was just thinking that!! I’m on the run and will check back later but this is one I want to deal with - Jakes is so wrong on so many levels - and his voice will not trump out the truth. I’d love to know his e box is flooded and his attempt to tell Christians anywhere that barry is a christian will not stand. What a fake, phony fraud deceitful attempt.


51 posted on 05/22/2011 1:08:36 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: truthandlife

“Bishop” Jakes’s theology isn’t suspect - it’s just bad. Not as sure about his faith.


52 posted on 05/22/2011 1:09:21 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: truthandlife

W didn’t attend ‘churches’ that taught ‘God damn America’, nor has EVERY act by this president been anti-Christian.


53 posted on 05/22/2011 1:11:05 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: ken21

That post should just end this thread...nothing more needs to be said...i know it and you know it.


54 posted on 05/22/2011 1:11:05 PM PDT by chasio649
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To: truthandlife

This ‘Bishop’ (T.D. Jakes) is obviously attempting to do damage control for Obama (probably unsolicited). Franklin Graham is well known for his work with the needy around the world and he carries a surname that is famous and respected among Christians. Jakes is trying to neutralize Graham’s comment that Barack Hussein Obama is considered to be a Muslim by many other Muslims, world-wide. He will fail.


55 posted on 05/22/2011 1:11:05 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: truthandlife
Picture on the front of Jakes website, and Grahams. I tried to pick the two most obvious pictures detailing the spirit of the sites. Jakes site is all about what a neat church he has. Grahams is all about going around the world to the most desperate and doing good. His picture is when they are in Japan giving trucks out to the devastated villages to help folks get around.


56 posted on 05/22/2011 1:12:36 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: missnry
If Barack Hussein Ubama were on trial for being a "Christian" would there be enough evidence to convict him??...

No. The very idea of dividing of Jerusalem proves that he is NOT a Christian. Also agree that there is more evidence supporting a Muslim belief system than a Christian one. Heck,there is more evidence saying that he is NOT an American than that he is one.

T.D. has drunk the kook-aid and it was good.

57 posted on 05/22/2011 1:13:24 PM PDT by madison10
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To: truthandlife

Oh, BTW, when Franklin first said O was a muslim, and the left attacked him (viciously) I sent a lot of the critics links to videos showing Grahams asking people to send gifts to poor kids for Christmas around the world.

(A wonderful program called Operation Christmas Child)

I told them I didn’t want to hear the venom for Graham when they probably never sent a gift to a kid in Haiti in their lives, and challenged them to fill a few shoeboxes.

http://www.samaritanspurse.org/index.php/OCC/

Our church does this every year and it is wonderful.


58 posted on 05/22/2011 1:17:26 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: madison10

“for many black churches,

race is more important

than God.”

Unfortunately true. A politician can be for gay rights, abortion (even partial term abortion), and say that Jews ought not to settle in Jerusalem—and still not be criticized by the black church. (Case in point: Obama).

A cult can believe its leader is surrounded at all times by 1500 tiny invisible space ships, and that in the End, all races other than the black race will be annihilated and the mother ship will evacuate black people—and his minions can still be welcomed to speak in black churches—because he shares a color with the congregation. (Case in point: Farrahkhan)

A hate group can demand that all other races be exterminated—especially Jews—and its leaders can still be welcomed to speak in black churches. (Case in point: the black panthers)

In black churches, race always trumps, and Jesus comes in second.


59 posted on 05/22/2011 1:21:07 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Bed_Zeppelin

Well put my FRiend.


60 posted on 05/22/2011 1:34:10 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman ("...; because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee,... "Hosea 4:6)
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