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Obama: 1967 Lines With 'Swaps' Means Different Israeli Border Than in 1967 (Double-Talking Jive)
Fox News ^ | 5/22/2011 | fox news

Posted on 05/22/2011 12:01:36 PM PDT by tobyhill

Claiming his remarks earlier this week on borders for Israel and a future Palestinian state had been misrepresented, President Obama said Sunday that "1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps" means the two sides will "negotiate a border that is different than the one that existed on June 4, 1967."

In remarks Sunday to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, the president tried to explain his earlier position to a warm but occasionally tentative crowd by saying that his speech Thursday at the State Department didn't offer anything new or provocative in the way of peace negotiations.

"There was nothing particularly original in my proposal; this basic framework for negotiations has long been the basis for discussions among the parties, including previous U.S. administrations," he said

"What I did on Thursday was to say publicly what has long been acknowledged privately," he added, saying his remarks were no different than a "well-known formula" that has been worked on for a generation.

"It allows the parties themselves to account for the changes that have taken place over the last 44 years, including the new demographic realities on the ground and the needs of both sides. The ultimate goal is two states for two peoples. Israel as a Jewish state and the homeland for the Jewish people, and the state of Palestine as the homeland for the Palestinian people; each state enjoying self-determination, mutual recognition, and peace," he said.

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1 posted on 05/22/2011 12:01:38 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Bibi to Zero: Stuff it.


2 posted on 05/22/2011 12:05:03 PM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: tobyhill

He keeps using the word contiguious when speaking about a Pali state

I don’t see that as reality


3 posted on 05/22/2011 12:09:18 PM PDT by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: tobyhill

swaps mean swaps and Israel going back to the same amount of land they had in 1967. Israel was attacked in 1967 and won. Why should they give back everything they won? I can see them offering to give back some of it IF the palestinians showed responsible behavior. But they haven’t


4 posted on 05/22/2011 12:13:42 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: tobyhill

Shuckin and jivin. The Obama shuffle.


5 posted on 05/22/2011 12:13:54 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: tobyhill

Obummer is a tool.


6 posted on 05/22/2011 12:14:10 PM PDT by South40 (Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: tobyhill
the two sides will "negotiate a border that is different than the one that existed on June 4, 1967."

oh, yeah...that sounds a WHOLE lot better.

what a maroon.

7 posted on 05/22/2011 12:24:32 PM PDT by ZinGirl
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


8 posted on 05/22/2011 12:32:59 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: tobyhill

Has anyone posted the transcript?


9 posted on 05/22/2011 12:35:42 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: tobyhill

Obama is over medicated. wants to create an Israel 2’ feet wide and 3000 miles long.


10 posted on 05/22/2011 12:36:38 PM PDT by hflynn
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To: tobyhill

Have we all had enough of Barack Obamas audacity yet?


11 posted on 05/22/2011 12:42:49 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Hating *me* won't make *you* handsome, intelligent, straight, male *or* white.)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

If you see the transcript will you please ping me. I will do the same; perhaps C-Span will publish it later.

I’ve already reached my Obama face-time quotient for the week, but if you are interested, here is the complete video AIPAC speech:

http://www.c-span.org/Events/Pres-Obama-Impatience-Growing-for-Peace-Deal/10737421659-7/


12 posted on 05/22/2011 12:51:57 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: ZinGirl
Obama is a moron.

It was totally irresponsible for him to invoke the *1967* borders; -the Arab world understands that to mean one thing :

the borders as they existed prior to the Six Day War.

Period.

13 posted on 05/22/2011 1:07:15 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: tobyhill

I read the transcripts and he did say swaps.
“The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps,”
As usual he did not define anything; you could take a million different interpretations of what he meant. I bet he did not mean to cause so many problems when he read it off the teleprompter.
What a bad week for Obama, when he expected to be still basking in the glory of killing Osama he gets bitch slapped by a Jewish guy on worldwide TV, has to help the press cover for him with the “it’s always been about the 67 borders just in secret” story, and then a bunch of big dollar donors tell him to pound sand. I’ll bet he just can’t wait until the meeting Monday when he has to face Netanyahu again.
Link to transcripts: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/19/barack-obama-speech-middle-east
Caution: reading the above transcript may cause dreariness and disorientation, do not operate heavy machinery while reading.


14 posted on 05/22/2011 1:34:35 PM PDT by shoff (Cuomo is going to change the NY state motto from Excelsior to elixir (cause we bought it)
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To: shoff
Yea, “swaps” mean the Muzzies get all of Jerusalem and in exchange he'll tell the Muzzies to let some of the Jews live.

Bibi needs to tell Obama and any other idiot Presidents we may inherit that Jerusalem is not and will never be up for negotiation.

15 posted on 05/22/2011 1:48:02 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: plain talk

Knowing how Liberals think I find the concept of returning lands won in a war an interesting, but not unusual Leftist scheme.

The Left is behind the NWO scheme(”Imagine”), and the Left is behind the lack of enforcement of our borders (”Imagine”).

If the Left succeeds with Israel, what’s to stop them?

Just a thought.


16 posted on 05/22/2011 2:04:05 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: tobyhill
the president tried to explain his earlier position... didn't offer anything new or provocative in the way of peace negotiations. "There was nothing particularly...

Our hero Obama trying to vote "present" once again.

17 posted on 05/22/2011 2:30:41 PM PDT by RJL
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To: hflynn

Hey, if it’s good enough for gerrymandered House districts, it’s good enough for the Jews....


18 posted on 05/22/2011 2:59:09 PM PDT by mikrofon (Don't argue with the Peace" Prize winner...)
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To: tobyhill

Benni should just (publicly) tell Barry to F off.


19 posted on 05/22/2011 3:02:18 PM PDT by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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To: tobyhill
Lying is a symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Narcissists think they can outwit others and then feel very proud of themselves for such deceit. He probably doesn't even realize that everyone can see right through it because his staff were probably telling him he did great. I only hope that someone called him out of it.

That's what was so awesome about Bibi. He was straight up. No BS, no reading between the lines. O can't compete with that because it's based on truth. Bibi will not be manipulated with deceptive talk. Hopefully, during the debates, we'll see someone with some back bone call him out on the truth.

20 posted on 05/22/2011 3:14:28 PM PDT by HollyB
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