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To: fifedom
You have a short memory. He talked a good game about cutting taxes. He put some good initiatives on the ballot in 2005.

No, it's you who has the short memory. Those "good" initiatives were vetted here carefully. They were a ruse.

The choice in the 2003 recall was not Arnold vs. Tom McClintock. It was Arnold or Gray or Bustamante. Would you rather have those two?

That's because you were dumb enough to buy the story. McClintock would have beaten Bustamante one-on-one or if conservatives had actually voted their preferences. The last Gallup poll before the recall proves it. Arnold took as many votes from the Democrats as he did from Republicans.

Here is the last USA Today/CNN/GALLUP poll before the recall.

"6. If the choice were between Cruz Bustamante, the Democrat and Tom McClintock, the Republican, who would you be more likely to vote for: Cruz Bustamante or Tom McClintock?"

September 25-27
Registered Voters

McClintock 49%
Bustamante 42%

Probable Voters

McClintock 56%
Bustamante 37%

41 posted on 05/19/2011 11:54:05 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: Carry_Okie; calcowgirl
Indeed, the Ahnuldbots STILL don't seem to "get it". They've been betrayed around 453,674,954 times by RINOs who falsely claim to be "fiscal conservatives", but every time a new RINO emerges on the political scene they tell us it will be different this time and this RINO is really sincere about shrinking government and cutting spending, etc.

They also have a poor memory about what the ballot said. It didn't ask voters "Grey Davis or Bustamante or Arnold?" The ballot actually had a two step process that ensured Davis would have been recalled whether or not the Austrian socialist was running:

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Question #1: Shall Governor Gray Davis be recalled? YES or NO

Question #2: IF he is recalled, who should his replacement be? (135 choices)

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The recall process was on track just fine til Ahnuld and his borg drones hijacked the spotlight and ensured the "frontrunner" to replace Davis was someone even worse.

46 posted on 05/19/2011 3:33:00 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Carry_Okie
No, it's you who has the short memory. Those "good" initiatives were vetted here carefully. They were a ruse.

That's right, they were not perfect. So conservatives stayed home and the Left won a huge victory.

If the choice were between Cruz Bustamante, the Democrat and Tom McClintock, the Republican, who would you be more likely to vote for: Cruz Bustamante or Tom McClintock?"

You can play all the hypothetical mind games you want but in the real election the choice was Arnold vs Bustamante vs McClintock and Gray Davis by voting against recall. McClintock got about 12% of the vote; much less than the others. I admire him but McClintock has also lost every statewide race he has run.
47 posted on 05/19/2011 4:40:31 PM PDT by fifedom
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To: Carry_Okie

I voted for McClintock...


52 posted on 05/19/2011 5:21:14 PM PDT by DB
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