Posted on 05/18/2011 9:12:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
No, but drug cartels with more money and arms than God are.
Freedom of Choice
It always pisses off the libertarians here when I equate Ron Paul and Libertarianism. And that you cannot divorce libertarian principles from Ron Paul. And when you think of Ron Paul - you think of libertarians. And when you think of libertarians - you think of Ron Paul smoking crack with hookers.
And on and on...
It pisses ‘em off. But hey. It’s what I do.
Seek clearly the fact that you posted this makes you a braver man than I!
Libertarians have long been huge fans of heavy drug use going all the way back to the founding of the country. I mean, how else would you come up with a flag with a talking rattlesnake?
The freedom to do drugs is different from the choice to do them. Just like Mitt Romney’s freedom to burn the flag is far different from his choice to do so.
That subtlety is often lost on the Romneybots. Romney vs Obama = Obamacare vs Obamacare light...not a choice.
Drugs are bad, but the war on drugs has just ended up being a war on liberty for all.
This is where Libertarian’s get it wrong. We dont just want liberty for libertys sake. The LLibertarian view of it has never really existed in functioning society; complete autonomy from authority.
Liberty as our founding fathers defined it was accountability and responsibility; first each individuals accountability directly to God, then to ourselves. If you are accountable to God and yourself, then the authority others can wield over you is limited.
I guess the author doesn't know that until the beginning of the temperance movement that coincided with the Progressive movement in the early 20th century, there were no restrictions. Today's laws are mostly political protection for special interest groups. Here in TN the liquor lobby far outspends any other on buying political favors. Thats why we still cant buy wine in the grocery store.
The federal government has no business legislating morality. So yes, heroin and hookers should be perfectly acceptable federally. If, on the other hand, your city, or perhaps even your state, want to legislate in that arena, feel free to do so.
However, I agree with Mr. Paul that the apparatus necessary to actually achieve enforcement has many bad effects, and, it is possible that I could be convinced that my prudential judgement is wrong and that the laws should be repealed.
Liberty is not licence.
Ron Paul is a capital-L Libertarian—as in the modern Libertarian Party.
Overall, Libertarian Party thought is as far removed from Reagan conservatism as the Green Party is removed from Reagan conservatism.
In fact, the Libertarian Party and Green Party have more in common with each other than either does with Reagan conservatism.
Why do we waste time even entertaining the Paul supporters? Would we waste time debating someone pimping the current Libertarian Party candidate or the Green Party candidate?
The term RINO gets thrown out too much here, but in Ron Paul’s it is accurate. He is a Republican in Name Only, because he is in fact a member of the Libertarian Party masqurading as a Republican.
Instead of tolerating Ron Paul supporters, we should tell them to go find a Libertarian Party forum to post on.
I have listened to Medved often enough to know he is a socialist that votes Republican. If it neither picks my pocket, or breaks my leg, the govt has no business enforcing laws against it. The reasoning that someone else can do something that costs the society money is true, but that is a problem of too much socialism, not a reason to regulate behavior. We should not be paying for anyones medical, food, housing or treatment as taxpayers. Let people live or die on their own, bury them in Potters field when they pass. I will take care of my own, take care of yours, or have them taken away to be housed and fed by the state directly. THAT I would support. Let’s reopen the nut houses, and the orphanages. You can bet on how many pregnancies by single mothers would drop, if they cannot get govt support for the act.
Libertarianism is nothing more that a set of theoretical constructs that has no basis in the reality of human nature.
Vice addiction is the Libertarian default position.
I don’t like Ron Paul, but talk radio is very boring on the subject of drugs etc. They don’t pay attention to the problems with our policies.
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