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To: Ladysforest
That’s your whole problem with this?

No, my problem with this is that there's not one shred of evidence to support this latest conspiracy theory, just insane assumptions. Certainly not reason enough to bother a woman about her dead baby and ask for her birth certificate.

My comment was directed at someone who said she would want to be informed if her baby's death was being exploited. As I said, that isn't what they said they were investigating. Probably because they had nothing to back it up and didn't want the door slammed in their face, which is what these lowlifes deserved.

189 posted on 05/18/2011 11:04:00 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: Kleon

1) would you also go on record, condemning as strongly, Ayers admitting he did steal many identities of dead babies? should people be allowed to get away with that, simply to avoid causing pain?
2) absolutely they are making assumptions! but “not one shred of evidence” ? please!
...the different resolution of signatures, the different curves on left margin, etc.,
are conclusive evidence, that the LFBC is absolutely a forgery.
added to the impossibility of a Connecticut SSN, the forged Selective Service Form,
“disappearing” documents like page 11 of the divorce and his Mother’s passport records, and yes, even dedicated defenders like you
(who i’ve been reading here for years), clearly shows a deliberate coverup.
So the logical question is, of what ? What is the big secret, the “mystery” ?
And so some very smart people here, are trying to figure that out, logically, and by making necessary assumptions.
The fake BC, which already has a time/sequence problem, coupled with the incredible effort Butterdezillion has made with Hawaii officials, supports the hypothesis, that 41 belonged to someone else originally. Sunahara is the logical choice. as Butterdezillion said:
“The most damaging piece of evidence regarding the possibility that Sunahara’s BC# was stolen wasn’t included in the WND piece: even though her name is in their 1960-64 birth index, the HDOH has claimed they don’t have a birth record for Sunahara.”
and you call all that “not a shred of evidence”, and “insane assumptions”? ...bet you said that about Watergate also at first, right?


192 posted on 05/18/2011 12:03:58 PM PDT by Elendur
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To: Kleon; Ladysforest

Some low life punks can get real mean with the ladies when they are hiding anonymously behind a message board.


193 posted on 05/18/2011 12:27:07 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Kleon
No, my problem with this is that there's not one shred of evidence to support this latest conspiracy theory, just insane assumptions. Certainly not reason enough to bother a woman about her dead baby and ask for her birth certificate.

This isn't a new theory. Obama's cert. no. has been known to be problematic since the day factlack dot org released its photos. The state of Hawaii's refusal to authenticate that number and their explanation of the process has indicated all along that the number likely belongs to somebody else, not him.

194 posted on 05/18/2011 12:27:25 PM PDT by edge919
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To: Kleon

“”No, my problem with this is that there’s not one shred of evidence to support this latest conspiracy theory, just insane assumptions. Certainly not reason enough to bother a woman about her dead baby and ask for her birth certificate.”’

Well, where do you think the “shreds of evidence” come from? Spontaneous creation? She didn’t dream up the theory on her own or out of nowhere. Using birth info from deceased persons has been practiced forever.

She did tell the woman she was researching infant deaths from 1961. Guess what? That was the truth.

Unless there is factual info tying this childs BC# to obama, she is not investigating anything but the facts surrounding the death and burial. She did not pressure the mother at all, and only asked simple questions. No accusations or probing happened. Clara did not appear to mind answering the questions or to be upset by them.

I’m certain that if it turns out that obama has used a deceased child’s BC# you’ll be out in front bellowing, “so what-the kids dead and don’t need it anyway”.

Researching anything has to start somewhere. Some people are obnoxious when the question people, and don’t care about how they try to get info. Many aren’t bothered in putting out half-assed conclusions based on flawed or corrupted “material”. Like the liberals and the MSM.

This research is carefully done. And while no one has made an assumption, many recognize that IF the number on the obama COLB is not legit, it had to be “borrowed” from somewhere.

We can’t rule something out or include it even, without doing some research. Maybe YOU want to go through life believing every thing some politician hands you, but as for me, I believe skepticism is healthy.


203 posted on 05/18/2011 2:38:36 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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