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Dupnik won't release more info about SWAT shooting of Tucson man
Arizona Daily Star ^ | May 17, 2011 | Fernanda Echavarri

Posted on 05/17/2011 7:17:28 PM PDT by george76

The Pima County Sheriff’s Department will release no more information about the circumstances surrounding the killing of Jose Guerena during the serving of a search warrant by the department’s SWAT officers May 5 at his home.

Two weeks after the shooting the department has yet to disclose exactly what they were searching for in the Guerena home ...

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On May 5, five members of the SWAT team fired 71 shots at Guerena while serving a search warrant at the 7100 block of South Redwater Drive. He was shot 60 times.

The 26-year-old former Marine was sleeping at about 9:30 a.m. after working the graveyard shift at Asarco’s Mission Mine when his wife woke him saying she heard noises outside and saw a man was at their window.

(Excerpt) Read more at azstarnet.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: banglist; corruption; democrats; donutwatch; dupnik; guerena; jbt; liberalfascism; murder; pima; pimacounty; rapeofliberty; swat; swatassholes; swatshooting; thinblueline; tucson; unions; unionthugs
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To: george76

Hope her lawyers go after the Pima County Deputies Association.


21 posted on 05/17/2011 9:07:14 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Until Reagan rises from the dead: Thank God McCain didnt win. Obama's better than some RINO.)
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To: george76

Has Dupnik released *any* statement concerning this killing of the Marine by his SWAT unit?


22 posted on 05/17/2011 9:09:09 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (The last Democrat worth a damn was Stalin. He purged his whole Party.)
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To: Mariner
I ask all Freepers: If it's discovered that anything was falsified (and nothing has been established), should those who falsified be charged and tried for First Degree Murder?

Only if you can prove that they were falsified with the express intent of bringing about the death of the victim. Otherwise, you have whatever AZ calls manslaughter at best, and even that is somewhat unlikely.

23 posted on 05/17/2011 9:24:40 PM PDT by Melas
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To: george76
Is working third shift (11PM - 7AM) in a mine the latest cover for drug dealers? (How many of y'all ever been down in a mine? Shudder!) If not, whoever ordered the warrant should be charged with murder and the deputies that fired the 71 rounds should be charged with manslaughter at the minimum.
71 rounds in a small house? I can't get over that one. It sounds like the modern LEOs are using the spray & pray technique instead of the know where every shot goes that was S.O.P. 25-30 years ago.
I can remember when, after a shooting, every officer that fired a round could tell you within inches where the slug was. Times sure have changed.
24 posted on 05/17/2011 9:37:05 PM PDT by Tupelo
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To: Tupelo
With all the rounds fired, I am surprised the woman or her at-home son were not hit. In fact ,I read where the deputies went to some neighboring houses to see if anyone else had been hit. For a woman and a son to hear all those bullets being fired, and then to find their husband and father killed, has to give them nightmares for the rest of their lives.

And to think ,the SWAT team refused medical treatment, even after it was apparent that the guy was lying there dying.

And to think, they initially tried to cover it up, by claiming the victim fired the first shot. and the sheriff was in it on the deception from the start. There are a lot of people that need to go to jail over this incident.

25 posted on 05/17/2011 9:44:33 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: george76
Really? So Dipstick, who couldn't wait to run out and point an unsubstantiated finger at “right wing hate mongers” suddenly doesn't feel a need to attach blame and demand accountability?
26 posted on 05/17/2011 10:01:43 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: george76
The Pima County Sheriff’s Department will release no more information about the circumstances surrounding the killing of Jose Guerena

Actually, they will.
When the family takes 'em to court.

27 posted on 05/17/2011 10:50:39 PM PDT by HiJinx (Old Cold Warrior)
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To: Venturer
“I would imagine a couple of those officers are feeling pangs of Conscience.”

As Perry Mason, the famous fictional lawyer created by Earl Stanley Gardner was want to say: “You have assumed a fact not in evidence.”

You are completely correct, however, that those police officers DID murder this man. Dupnick and his deputies need to be put on trial for murder and aiding and abetting murder.

28 posted on 05/18/2011 12:00:43 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: Mariner

I’ve been saying the SWAT team, the officers in charge, and dispatch should be hauled in front of a military tribunal.


29 posted on 05/18/2011 12:04:01 AM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: Cicero

It won’t change the minds of any living Tusconians. They were not the subjects of SWA assassination Teams. If they had been they would no longer vote for Dupnik.


30 posted on 05/18/2011 3:39:52 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: Venturer

Any “pangs of conscience” were trained out of them. First those who desire and/or are deemed eligible for SWAT training are deficient in that capacity to start with and their training and the very existence of SWAT insures that they will feel like occupation troops in a hostile and deadly population. They are becoming the Praetorian Guard of local establishments and, like the PG of ancient Rome will eventually cut out the middlemen.


31 posted on 05/18/2011 3:44:13 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: Greysard

Why would they be sad? They got to accomplish what their intense training prepared them for and promised them. They eliminated one of the monsters on that Level. After successfully eliminating a few more they get to the next Level. It is a video game without the possibility of the player suffering his own atavar’s demise and failure on a Level.


32 posted on 05/18/2011 3:49:52 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: rawhide

The extent of the deception indicates the likelihood that it was planned that way from the beginning. The scripts are written before the raid to cover the possible/probable outcomes. The failure of the first script means that the backups are used and that the failure will be a lesson for script writers in the future and will probably be incorporated in their training..


33 posted on 05/18/2011 3:54:01 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: george76

Cops need time to get together and get their stories straight while they make up lies and dirt about the victim.


34 posted on 05/18/2011 7:46:31 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: Fido969

I drove by the house yesterday and was shocked at how much damage there was on the outside. (They show pics of the inside on the news) There is no need for that kind of force to serve a search warrant. It saddens me (and scares me) to live here where the police use so much force. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? This seems like a murder to me.


35 posted on 05/18/2011 10:15:26 AM PDT by nparker99
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To: Gene Eric

and handed a cig while blindfolded.

Honestly thought AZ was a red state. How can they keep electing fascists?


36 posted on 05/18/2011 10:39:24 AM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: Mariner
If it's discovered that anything was falsified (and nothing has been established), should those who falsified be charged and tried for First Degree Murder?

Without question... Yes.

37 posted on 05/18/2011 10:45:41 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (explosive bolts, ten thousand volts at a million miles an hour)
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To: sergeantdave

Got myself plus a pair of VN era Gunnys right down the road.

Suppose we qualify as a slightly reduced squad?


38 posted on 05/18/2011 10:50:22 AM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet ((612 and a wakeup) Truth, I know, always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition.)
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To: calex59
According to the Ind Supremes you don't have a reason to shoot people who break into your home unannounced if they are wearing Police uniforms.

That is why we must hold the Indiana Supreme Court in contempt. They are trashing the US Constitution which is the only protection left against the tyranny of American Democrat politicians and the fascists at the top of the Justice Department.

39 posted on 05/18/2011 11:06:41 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama is a fraud. The founders gave us the tool of impeachment for a reason.)
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To: Melas; Mariner
How about this:

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 13 > § 242

§ 242. Deprivation of rights under color of law

Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States,

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and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both;

and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

40 posted on 05/18/2011 11:20:08 AM PDT by Ken H
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