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To: Sherman Logan

Biblically, the Jewish people must trace their lineage back to all three patriarchs: Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. From a Biblical point of view, Jewish geneologies are paternally determined as opposed to other methods developed by the Jewish people over the centuries, such as a Jewish person is so if his/her mother is Jewish, if he/she is a gentile (non-Jew) cultural ‘proselyte’, etc. If a male Israelite married a Moabitess, for example Boaz marrying Ruth, their offspring were 100% Jewish, in Scripture.

Again, biblically, Jewish people are so because of their pedigree which must include Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Most Jewish tribal geneologies were lost after the destruction of Jerusalem, 70 CE, although surnames such as “Levy, Levi, Cohen,” etc. point to the Levitical tribe.

Scripture clearly delineates between 2 sets of people in 2 different ways:

Jews
non-Jews (goyim, gentiles)

believers, God-fearers
nonbelievers, pagans, apostates

One can be Jewish and a God-fearer
One can be Jewish and a nonbeliever (atheist, agnostic, etc.)
One cannot be Jewish and gentile (*biblically speaking only* where the father determines lineage)

Oh, and since many of the prophecies have not yet been fulfilled for Israel, God is NOT finished with His chosen people. God is always, always, always a promise-keeper, though His timetable out-spans our brief lifetimes. Beware reformed theology that “spiritualizes” away all the promises for Israel in the Tenach by suggesting “Israel” = the Church.

“Do not cause anyone to stumble, whether Jews, Greeks (gentiles), OR the church of God.” 1 Cor. 10:32


108 posted on 05/17/2011 1:41:49 PM PDT by Ironist
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To: Ironist

Your post is almost 100% wrong.

The father determines the tribe, the mother whether one is Jewish or not.

A convert to Judaism is 100% Jewish, with the only restriction being a female convert cannot marry a Cohen (but her kids could).


110 posted on 05/17/2011 2:06:14 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Ironist

Your post is almost 100% wrong.

The father determines the tribe, the mother whether one is Jewish or not.

A convert to Judaism is 100% Jewish, with the only restriction being a female convert cannot marry a Cohen (but her kids could).


111 posted on 05/17/2011 2:06:31 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Ironist

“If a male Israelite married a Moabitess, for example Boaz marrying Ruth, their offspring were 100% Jewish, in Scripture.”

Only because Ruth converted.


112 posted on 05/17/2011 2:08:50 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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