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Sheriff blames cheese for false drug test that led to arrest
Charlotte Observer ^ | 05-17-2011 | Staff

Posted on 05/17/2011 5:32:39 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: rogue yam
OK. What did Mr Hernandez do wrong? Other than misunderstanding what the Barney Fife said. Is it illegal in North Carolina to not speak good English?
Like the Sheriff's Dept. in Tucson, I think this deputy over reacted.
Ifthe facts are as reported, why is the county NOT responsible for falsely imprisoning Mr. Hernandez? Why is the county NOT responsible for replacing his tires. Why is the county NOT responsible for destroying his vacation.
Being an immigrant, a LEGAL immigrant does not negate his right to freely move about the country without fear of local police.
42 posted on 05/17/2011 7:36:17 AM PDT by Tupelo
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Any questions?

Just one: Why is a trained, experienced scientist posting retarded garbage on FR?

The field test was use as a screening test and not as a definitive test as you claim.

The officers in the field performed the field test, they obtained a (false as it turned out) positive result, so they arrested the suspect and sent the substance off to the lab for the definitive test. That result came back negative and so here we are.

Why is this so hard for you to understand?

44 posted on 05/17/2011 7:40:53 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Tupelo

Did you read any of the previous articles?

Please tell me that you don’t really think that the article linked by the OP is a complete description of this case.


45 posted on 05/17/2011 7:43:47 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam
Why is this so hard for you to understand?

Because there are other tests they could run in the field to minimize false-positives.

But you jackboots get raises based on the number of arrests you make, so might as well pump up the numbers.

If an innocent person spends a few days in jail because of your laziness, they probably deserve it for something they did, eh?

46 posted on 05/17/2011 7:45:25 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islamophobia: The fear of offending Muslims because they are prone to violence.)
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To: tacticalogic

That may be true but I am certainly not assisting the leftists in destroying our country by posting irrational and dishonest criticisms of law enforcement officers on a conservative discussion board. So at least I’ve got that going for me.


47 posted on 05/17/2011 7:46:25 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Tupelo

“Accents (regional and foreign) do funny things with the English language. “

There’s a large family of Chinese at a local market who learned to speak English with a heavy southern drawl.

Combined with the residual Chinese inflections it causes me to snicker every time I hear it.


48 posted on 05/17/2011 7:51:54 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: rogue yam
That may be true but I am certainly not assisting the leftists in destroying our country by posting irrational and dishonest criticisms of law enforcement officers on a conservative discussion board.

No, you're helping them by trying to make the government and their bureaucracy above reproach. The cops are not little tin gods.

49 posted on 05/17/2011 7:52:02 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You are too busy being a genius to say anything intelligent.

So now your charge is that the arresting agency deliberately issued to their officers an unnecessarily faulty field test (when better ones are readily available) in order to increase the number of (false) arrests they conduct?

Are you speaking now as an educated, experienced scientist or as a dishonest, bloviating, cop-hating fool?

(The fact that you imply that I’m a cop in such a way as to clearly indicate that you intend this as an insult argues for the latter explanation, doesn’t it?)


50 posted on 05/17/2011 7:56:26 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: tacticalogic
No, you're helping them by trying to make the government and their bureaucracy above reproach. The cops are not little tin gods.

What you say here is simply false.

Nothing I have said on threads regarding this case has the effect you claim here. I am often critical of government at all levels including law enforcement agencies.

But it is a fact that leftism is predicated, more than anything else, on a culture of mindless, snide, sneering, sarcastic criticism of all institutions of our Civilization. And one of the sustaining lies of this culture of mindless criticism is that anyone who defends any institution in any particular case is attempting to quash all criticism.

So in saying what you did you have acted as a made-to-order tool of the leftists.

51 posted on 05/17/2011 8:05:30 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam
But it is a fact that leftism is predicated, more than anything else, on a culture of mindless, snide, sneering, sarcastic criticism of all institutions of our Civilization. And one of the sustaining lies of this culture of mindless criticism is that anyone who defends any institution in any particular case is attempting to quash all criticism.

I've watched civil asset forfeiture laws, no-knock raids, and union rules and CYA turn metropolitan police departments from "peace officers" into bounty hunters and pension pimps that actively oppose RKBA for the average citizen.

52 posted on 05/17/2011 8:22:05 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic
I've watched civil asset forfeiture laws, no-knock raids, and union rules and CYA turn metropolitan police departments from "peace officers" into bounty hunters and pension pimps that actively oppose RKBA for the average citizen.

Therefore what?

53 posted on 05/17/2011 8:32:50 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

Therefore, I have reason to question their actions and accounts of events that in the past I would have taken at face value.


54 posted on 05/17/2011 8:36:09 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: rogue yam

he was acting disoriented, he refused to pull over, they finally stopped him with puncture strips,

Do you have a link for this “report”?


55 posted on 05/17/2011 9:22:46 AM PDT by bird4four4 (God Damn America!!! - Mr. Wright, your prayer has been answered 11-4-08)
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To: tacticalogic

There is a huge difference between intelligently questioning the particular actions of specific officers in an individual case and making false statements about some particular case.

What you have done on this thread is to make false statements about this particular case.

I called you on it. You said additional stupid things, you got mad, and now you’re making excuses.

But the plain, simple fact of the matter is that you stated at Reply #36 that the arrestee had done nothing wrong. I think that this is false and I have stated why.

Your previous experiences or observations change nothing.


56 posted on 05/17/2011 9:27:49 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: bird4four4
Do you have a link for this “report”?

Google the words Antonio, Hernandez, and Asheville, read a bit, then come back.

57 posted on 05/17/2011 9:30:40 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: bird4four4

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2717585/posts

There is a previous FR thread just in case you are intelligent and honest.


58 posted on 05/17/2011 9:34:39 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam
That's your opinion, and so far you haven't given me any reason to believe I should pay any particular attention to it.

As far as whether I intelligently questioned the actions of these specific officers, I looked at the evidence and decided that the proposition that someone was trying to smuggle cocaine by mixing it into tortilla dough should have struck those officers as very unlikely at the time, given that once you did it would be virtually impossible to get it back out.

59 posted on 05/17/2011 9:40:13 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Rebelbase
I remember well a very beautiful Chinese girl that worked at a Chinese Restaurant in Tupelo, Miss that sounded more hillbilly than I do. What a shocker that was the first time I heard her.
60 posted on 05/17/2011 9:42:33 AM PDT by Tupelo
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