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Supreme Court gives police leeway in home searches
Los Angeles Times ^ | May 17, 2011 | David G. Savage

Posted on 05/16/2011 9:48:14 PM PDT by UniqueViews

Officers may break in if they hear sounds and suspect that evidence is being destroyed, the justices say in an 8-1 decision. Justice Ginsburg dissents.

The Supreme Court gave police more leeway to break into homes or apartments in search of illegal drugs when they suspect the evidence otherwise might be destroyed.

Ruling in a Kentucky case Monday, the justices said that officers who smell marijuana and loudly knock on the door may break in if they hear sounds that suggest the residents are scurrying to hide the drugs.

Residents who "attempt to destroy evidence have only themselves to blame" when police burst in, said Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. for an 8-1 majority.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: brighamcity; crime; fourthamendment; ginsburg; lawsuit; police; ruling; scotus; searches; standingarmy; tyranny; wod
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To: UniqueViews

IOW, they could be breaking into the wrong apartment.
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Another worthy reason not to live in an apartment complex.


41 posted on 05/16/2011 10:41:30 PM PDT by ri4dc (Cut your cable, Break Wind for the TSA, Flush Twice in 2012, ROTUS Meet the Hermanator)
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To: UniqueViews

I hate to say this, and it isn’t a threat, but if this does indeed become the law of the land, there will be many, many more cops being killed while on duty. This is a fact that you can take to the bank.

The public’s response will be: “I thought it was an intruder...” You see, two can play this little game.

This could get very ugly, very quickly.


42 posted on 05/16/2011 10:45:20 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: UniqueViews

Thin edge of the wedge.

Without a clear-cut warrant, this interpretation can, and will, be used so often and loosely that the 4th amendment is essentially gone.


43 posted on 05/16/2011 10:45:38 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: UniqueViews
True, but this time Ginsburgh is the hero.
44 posted on 05/16/2011 10:46:21 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: UniqueViews

So, in essence this is house-by-house Marshall Law......


45 posted on 05/16/2011 10:47:19 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: Artcore

The difference is that you will be able to pop off one or two shots. The police will be able to pop off 70 shots.


46 posted on 05/16/2011 10:50:15 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30

The difference is that you will be able to pop off one or two shots. The police will be able to pop off 70 shots.
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Sometimes that’s all it takes...

Lawlessness begets lawlessness.


47 posted on 05/16/2011 10:52:43 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: UniqueViews

Let’s say this home owner is a 75 year old. And let’s say he pops the cop... The home owner could be forfeiting 5 years of his life. Assume the cop is in his 30ies, he is putting 50 years of his life on the line. The advantage goes to the home owner...

Perhaps they should reconsider this.


48 posted on 05/16/2011 10:52:48 PM PDT by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: libertarian27

What the hell is “Marshall” law? Did you mean “Martial” law?


49 posted on 05/16/2011 10:57:13 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: babygene

I agree. They should definitly reconsider this stupid move. As I mentioned, if this beomes common place, the numbers of law enforcement officers who lose their life on the job will grow greatly.

Home owners will come up with really creative defenses for having to use deadly force. Cops think the big cities are dangerous? Let them try and enforce this abject stupidity, and they’ll see what dangerous is all about. This is pure foolishness.


50 posted on 05/16/2011 11:02:58 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: UniqueViews
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
51 posted on 05/16/2011 11:03:23 PM PDT by anonsquared
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To: Little Pig

“What the hell is “Marshall” law? Did you mean “Martial” law?”

You knew what he/she meant. Or then again, maybe you didn’t... you might just be dense.


52 posted on 05/16/2011 11:03:23 PM PDT by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: anonsquared

That sounds like domestic terrorist talk


53 posted on 05/16/2011 11:17:07 PM PDT by thecabal (We could be pets, we could be food, but all we really are is livestock.)
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To: Celtic Cross

INDEED.

However . . . obviously . . . nothing here . . . move along.

/s


54 posted on 05/16/2011 11:19:33 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Little Pig

Must be past my bedtime. I read the opinion and I read it as saying that the police did NOT have justification for a warrantless entry.

???


55 posted on 05/16/2011 11:25:46 PM PDT by Let_It_Be_So
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To: babygene

Of course I knew what he/she meant, hence the correction. Or, you might have missed than, and are just an asshat.

Even with the correction, though, the poster still isn’t really correct. The phrase martial law is often used to describe all kinds of government abuse, including things like these warrantless searches and other gestapo tactics. However, it simply means rule by the military under an emergency situation, and generally includes curfew, restricted movement, and other controls on daily activity.


56 posted on 05/16/2011 11:26:25 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: babygene

>>Let’s say this home owner is a 75 year old. And let’s say he pops the cop... The home owner could be forfeiting 5 years of his life. Assume the cop is in his 30ies, he is putting 50 years of his life on the line. The advantage goes to the home owner...

Perhaps they should reconsider this.<<

“Never mess with an old man, he’ll just kill you.”

Think about that for a minute, especially if he’s a bachelor! No retirement home costs, medical all paid for, food and shelter all paid for.


57 posted on 05/16/2011 11:38:16 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing to America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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To: Celtic Cross

“Still too open ended. This can be so easily abused.

Any time the cops screw up they’ll just say “I thought evidence was being destroyed.””

A police officer should not have to rush into a private residence, he call in back up and wait outside for them to leave.

We pay to maintain an army of police and/or give the sheriff posse powers(To build an army when necessary) so that have a large enough homefeild advantage that they don’t have to violate our rights in their battle with the criminals.

A police officer can wait outside your home until he either gets a warrant to enter or you leave.


58 posted on 05/16/2011 11:38:59 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: cherry
this is what we get from Alito?.....

...from everybody but Gisburg!

59 posted on 05/17/2011 4:50:58 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: cherry
this is what we get from Alito?.....

...from everybody but Ginsburg!

60 posted on 05/17/2011 4:51:11 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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