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James White on Harold Camping and the end of the world
Alpha & Omega Ministries ^ | 05/14/2011 | James White

Posted on 05/16/2011 11:15:20 AM PDT by Choozer

Every time some maverick like Camping decides to go off the reservation and promote a prophecy like this, scorn is brought on all of us who believe Jesus is coming again. The mockery factor will be quite high come Monday the 23rd.

I do not know what Camping is going to do. He has closed every door on his options. He has said the Bible guarantees it. There is no plan B. This is it, plain and simple, no question marks after May 21, 2011? or the like to fall back on. I have thought he might spiritualize it, like Miller did back in 1844 or so, but he has really not left that option open either. He could always claim a blown calculation, but that would leave him without much credibility as a number-cruncher, and his system is nothing if it isn't based on number-crunching. Will he even show up on Open Forum on Monday? I mean, at 89 years of age, you'd think retirement would all of a sudden become a very viable option.

I can't imagine what a Monday, May 23rd, 2011 Open Forum broadcast would be like. Can you imagine the calls? Not only the mockery from unbelievers, but the anger from his own followers? It would probably be the highest rated program ever. Their servers would melt down on the Internet side. But that would be temporary, and one can surely predict the collapse of Family Radio as a result of Camping's second major prophetic failure. One would hope, at least, that finally he would be removed and taken off the air so as to deceive no more. But, you would have thought that would have happened back in 1994. It didn't. There is always an audience for false prophets.

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To: Choozer

Camping is the William Miller of the 2000’s. When Jesus does not comply with Camping’s chronology, the date will be reset, and Camping’s followers will dutifully accept the next date... until the 2nd coming does not occur then.. and then they will accept Camping’s reinterpretation.


21 posted on 05/16/2011 12:21:17 PM PDT by Guyin4Os (A messianic ger-tsedek)
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To: Choozer

Does anyone know the exact time on 5-21-11 that the world ends? I sure don’t want to miss it. Do I need a sarcasm tag?


22 posted on 05/16/2011 12:24:52 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Nervous Tick

There is no plan B.
And no EXIT STRATEGY.....


23 posted on 05/16/2011 12:27:31 PM PDT by traumer
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To: Choozer

I started listening to Family Radio after seeing a doomsday billboard in San Francisco some weeks ago. Aside from the doomsday sermonizing (which at first I heard very little of but now there is more, of course) it is a very good Christian radio station. Mostly music (and a fantastic selection), straight reading of scripture in nicely-sized chunks, and little sermonizing or fundraising. I am sorry that they are pushing this May 21 stuff. It just makes me sad for them and sorry for the damage it will do to Christianity in general. I don’t wish them ill. I hope they stick with the Bible after May 21, repent their mistakes, and keep broadcasting wonderful music and God’s Word.


24 posted on 05/16/2011 12:37:11 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: SVTCobra03

I couldn’t find the exact time (the end is suppose to *start* May 21) but, IIRC, 6:00 PM MDST.

What’s really hillarious, we go there for our vacation on that day.


25 posted on 05/16/2011 12:40:41 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: SVTCobra03

Colorado, that is.


26 posted on 05/16/2011 12:41:45 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Choozer

bttt


27 posted on 05/16/2011 12:50:22 PM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Freedom's Just Another Word For Nothing Left to Tax " ~ Gagdad Bob)
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To: CynicalBear

“but I find no condemnation for those who eagerly anticipate the coming of Jesus.” You are right about that, but Camping has overstepped in predicting Christ’s return on a certain date and his other doctrinal errors which are a clear contradictions to the scriptures. Paul deals with the similar heresy in Thessalonians. False teachers told the Thessalonian church that the Day of the Lord had already come. Paul tells Thessalonians, Christ had not return yet but He would in the future and the believers that died and live believers would meet the Lord in the air.


28 posted on 05/16/2011 12:51:19 PM PDT by Rodm
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To: wolfcreek

“I couldn’t find the exact time (the end is suppose to *start* May 21) but, IIRC, 6:00 PM MDST.”

Thanks. Thank would be 7:00 p.m. where I live and since the sun will be past the yardarm, I will sit on my roof, open up a bottle of 20-year-old Pappy Van Winkle Premium Bourbon and watch the End of the World. Should be quite a show.


29 posted on 05/16/2011 1:13:00 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: SVTCobra03

Some guy in NY says 6:00 pm. Eastern time on Saturday.


30 posted on 05/16/2011 1:33:29 PM PDT by Vor Lady
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To: wolfcreek
What’s really hillarious, we go there for our vacation on that day.

If you are flying, make sure that either your pilot or copilot is completely debauched and has no chance of being raptured. It would stink to be among the first post-rapture fatalities as your plane crashes. You'll have to wait in line at the Pearly Gates behind all the smug faithful.


31 posted on 05/16/2011 1:43:28 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! Tea Party extremism is a badge of honor.)
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To: KarlInOhio
We're flying that morning and should be at our condo by 4:00.

Plenty of time for prayer and remembrance

32 posted on 05/16/2011 1:59:20 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Choozer

Doesn’t a false prophesy call for a consequence according to the Bible... beyond being labeled a fool?


33 posted on 05/16/2011 2:19:53 PM PDT by The Brush
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To: Choozer

Doesn’t a false prophesy call for a consequence according to the Bible... beyond being labeled a fool?


34 posted on 05/16/2011 2:20:05 PM PDT by The Brush
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To: AppyPappy

Did you not read my original post? I didn’t agree, nor did I defend him. I simply said that though he may be misinterpreting prophecy I would not be among those who scoff. Why do you keep asking me these questions? I don’t know the guy and haven’t even gone to the sight to investigate what he is saying.


35 posted on 05/16/2011 3:34:24 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: The Brush
>> Doesn’t a false prophesy call for a consequence according to the Bible... beyond being labeled a fool?<<

It does, but not for misinterpreting already existing prophecy.

36 posted on 05/16/2011 3:38:39 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: AppyPappy

“I’ve noticed they are still asking for donations...”

Not only are they still asking for “love offerings”, but this morning they gave an address to send away for their program guide, and they gave the weather forecast through Sunday.

That would be Sunday, May 22.

I’m fascinated by this. I have never heard someone paint themselves so far into a corner.


37 posted on 05/16/2011 4:53:17 PM PDT by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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To: Red Badger

In parts of Canada this will be a long weekend with Monday May 23 being celebrated as Victoria Day. It is against the law to end the world on a long weekend in Canada.


38 posted on 05/16/2011 4:59:49 PM PDT by xp38
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To: mrs. a

There is always the possibility that no one gets Raptured because no one was worthy. We just have to wait for Rapture 2: The Sequel.


39 posted on 05/16/2011 6:13:03 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: CynicalBear

You don’t scoff a man who is using the Rapture to make money? Who will speak out against the false teachers as Paul did?


40 posted on 05/16/2011 6:14:53 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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