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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

It doesn’t necessarily mean someone doesn’t believe in redemption.

A business owner or manager has an obligation to his customers and the other employees.

Recidivism is high in ex-cons.

Particularly if they have violent tendencies, would you want a customer or a law abiding employee hurt or killed because you ‘believe in redemption?’

Would you like your business robbed blind?

It’s not a guarantee that an ex-con will take part in the above; but it is a lot more likely that he will than your average college grad with a clean record.

There is a man on my block who had one felony (don’t know what for) at age 18. He is in his 30s now, married, kids. He’s been looking for work for almost two years. If I had work, I’d hire him. But I have gotten to know him and his family fairly well over the last few years.

To just hire an ex-violent offender in the hope of ‘redeeming’ him without knowing him at all, exposing my customers and other employees to that? I don’t think I would. Only if it’s a position where somehow he can’t do harm.


29 posted on 05/15/2011 8:39:13 AM PDT by Persevero (We don't need Superman -- we have the Special Forces)
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To: Persevero

Not to change the subject, but this is the reason I would never have supported Huckabee. His belief in redemption of violent criminals cost a handful of people their lives.


34 posted on 05/15/2011 8:44:35 AM PDT by Second Amendment First ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..." - Thomas Jefferson.)
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To: Persevero
Didn't Normal Mailer try that with Jack Abbott? It cost an innocent man his life. Even after he had killed a second time, Abbott still gained the support of bums like writer Jerzy Kosinski and that old skank Susan Sarandon. Later at least Kosinski had the moral courage and honesty to admit that he was a dupe in the whole sordid mess. A lot of good that did the man Abbott killed.

An anecdotal example, I admit. There are likely anecdotes that show an ex-con can live a peaceful and productive life after release. But those that murder again exact a heavy toll, for those they kill and their families, and it gives you pause.

37 posted on 05/15/2011 8:50:57 AM PDT by chimera
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To: Persevero

I understand all that, I thought at the time that the OP was having a contemptuous attitude towards someone who was genuinely trying to turn their life around. I do believe the onus is on these people to prove that they have turned their life around first, perhaps by working in a voluntary capacity in something first.

The trouble is, if you don’t give these people a chance to redeem themselves, you may as well just take every convicted criminal into a trench and blow their heads off because if they aren’t given the opportunity to go straight, it is obvious that they will go straight back into crime...


60 posted on 05/15/2011 10:24:51 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Persevero
Recidivism is high in ex-cons.

Well, yeah!

It's VERY low in NEVER cons: almost zero in fact.

80 posted on 05/15/2011 2:32:57 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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