What is it the leftoids like to say about "Learning Moments"?
Posted on 05/14/2011 2:37:06 PM PDT by Libloather
College grads become 'boomerangs,' return home after graduation
By Justin Quesinberry
Published: May 13, 2011
RALEIGH, N.C. - After college graduation, some students will begin their jobs, others will pursue another degree, but a growing number will head back where they started – home.
According to a poll by Twentysomething, Inc., 85 percent of college graduates will move home. That’s up from 67 percent in 2006.
Brian Cutchin, a North Carolina State University senior set to graduate Saturday, is one of those so-called “boomerangs.”
“I didn't think it would be this tough, I thought getting a degree from NC State would be good, but I guess with the economy downturn that happened, things changed,” he said.
NC State’s Career Center Director Carol Shroeder said she’s familiar with the term “boomerang.”
"I feel so sorry for their parents. It's very difficult. Obviously it's a good way to save money. It's a good way to get support,” she said.
Shroeder said she’s received reports that employers are increasing their hiring, but she said it’s to early to say for sure. While she said the number of jobs posted online is up, those positions may not be exactly what students want.
"Some students say, 'Well, if I take a job well beneath my educational capabilities then I'm doomed forever.’ No, I think the hiring market will be much more understanding of why you had to take a job that was not a particularly good job,” she said.
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I hate to burst your bubble, but my wife and I were the dreaded helicopter parents while our daughter was growing up. She was #3 in her HS class and missed the top 10 at TAMU by .05. My wife and I decided to have wife at home when our daughter was six months old. That did not matter even though my wife made almost twice my salary. That was the best decision we ever made. Dauther is now a very conservative, working member of society.
No accountability to the results, is there? Once a politician is in, he/she/it can do whatever he/she/it wants.
I’m not lecturing. I’m speaking from my own personal experience. If you have college grads living at home who aren’t working, that’s a “you” issue, isn’t it?
Yep. It’s up to God to guide them, not their parents.
Is this your statement as to those degrees which you consider garbage: “And just to be clear, I do not consider Criminal Justice a “garbage degree”. I leave that label for other “degrees” such as “Journalism”, “Communications”, “Social Work”, “Multi-media” ANY of the “Liberal Arts”, “Basket Weaving” and so on.”
I’m still looking for that university that offers a major in basket weaving. But aside from that, I would not argue that degrees in journalism, communications (unless your objective is to go into radio and television and the college offers courses that provide specific background in this field), multi-media (whatever that is), and social work may be not exactly what employers are looking for.
But I take considerable exception to your classification of degrees in the liberal arts as being garbage. Perhaps it has escaped you but these majors are the basis for what used to be the primary purpose of education, i.e., producing persons instructed in critical thinking and able to write and speak well (see the Trivium of Grammar, Logic, Rhetoric). In addition, advanced education should turn out individuals who are “well-rounded and cultured” in that they have an understanding of their society and its arts, political system, and its general norms thereof. Sophisticated, if you will.
I cannot provide chapter and verse (i.e., a reference) but it is my understanding that Wall Street hires a lot of people with strong backgrounds in the liberal arts.
With the exception of certain professions (engineering, law, medicine and the like), employers tend to take people and train them in what they want them to know. That would especially include people who have undergone a solid grounding in what I have outlined, sketchily, to be sure.
What I am saying is that degrees in the liberal arts are not what you so delicately describe as garbage.
As Exhibit A, I graduated in 1966 with a degree in political science. I had wanted to go to law school, and this is one of the degrees recommended. Unfortunately, even though I did well on the Law School Admission Test, I had chosen the wrong parents and the money was not there. Nevertheless, I found a job right away as a surety bond underwriter. Later, I changed jobs and got a degree in economics (hope that is acceptable to you) and things went well.
Today I am retired and my wife and I subsist on two pensions totalling $95,000 annually. Not bad for a person with two garbage degrees.
Yes, yes, I know that was another time, another age, but the principles hold true.
In Sept 1981 I moved in with my parents after I graduated in May with an IT degree. It was a terrible economy but I managed to get a job in October. I stayed with my parents because they liked me there, I didn’t mess up, I didn’t know anyone and sadly, they really didn’t know me. I was the quiet trouble-free child. When I brought a girl home during my junior year in college, she asked me “Did you grow up with this family? There are no pictures of you in the house”. It was a great time spent with my parents. By May the next year, I had moved out.
Re your post 104, I was not referring to those who are not in college. I had reference to the choices of majors of students who were going to college.
I had specific reference to those here on FR who clamor for Engineering! Engineering! as though it was the only way to go, well, if you didn’t want to settle for a no-use degree.
Howie66 is one of them. He calls them garbage degrees. We disagree.
I think degrees are good...but only if backed by a person who has character, integrity and a solid work ethic.
Thanks, McLynnan. Believe me, I don’t always have what it takes. I’ve been on a hiatus for about 4 months, because I really needed a break from it. I’m about to go back, and I’m dreading it.
I have a love/hate relationship with being a nurse. It’s grueling work, but I also love being w/ people and trying to help them out. I don’t think there’s any other job quite like it, at least being an RN in the Er’s, hospital floors, etc. They say it’s close to combat stress, and I believe it.
You are the exception. There are always exceptions. Good job.
Well my son and his wife have decided their children can live with them as long as they want to. Doing so is an excelleant way for them to put away monies for the time when they do decide to launch out on their own.
I know of families where the sons have remained at home even with excellant paying jobs...again a great way to secure you kids for when they do step out. There are many advantages for both the parents and the kids.
We are the only country that kicks our kids out once they graduate.
I disagree.....many kids are not marrying after school.. whereas you and your wife had dual incomes. I do not believe our kids have to endure monetary hardships IF they are taught how to manage their money...and remaining at home 'enables' them to save a good financial foundation when they decide it's time to move on from the homefront. I had a situation which required me to return home for three months. I paid my mother x amount of dollars to assist with expenses. When it came time to move on she wrote a nice sized check for me...she had taken all the money I gave her and put it aside for that very day when I would be on my own again. For that, and the money I had set aside...the road was not so difficult had it might otherwise been.
I graduated with a chemical engineering degree back in 1998, in what was hailed by the media as the best economy in human history (due to Clinton). It took me three months to find any sort of job, and I didn’t a real engineering position until two years after graduation. I distinctly remember reading a newspaper article at the time about an illegal alien with a felony record getting a tree-trimming job paying $24K... while I was happy to finally get a tech position paying $9.50/hour.
I think your missing the point badly. The point is why spend $50-200k for a degree in something like Czech language posted earlier.
Perhaps they should dance in the streets celebrating their change—being saddled with student loans and debts they can’t pay back. That’s change, right?
What is it the leftoids like to say about "Learning Moments"?
All the Dems have to do is proclaim to want to pass something with the name “green” or “diverse” in it and these wastes will salivate and and ring the liberal bell.
With jobs there's a danger that these wastes may turn right when they see the taxes they pay or that a Conservative may benefit.
Thanks. Our daughter grew up being very competitive in both her education and sports. Her HS class was probably the smartest ever to graduate in that ISD.
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