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1 posted on 05/13/2011 2:07:59 PM PDT by jeffq73
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How very....Stalinist.


2 posted on 05/13/2011 2:09:13 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: jeffq73

How very....Stalinist.


3 posted on 05/13/2011 2:09:13 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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Just imagine the response from the professors if GWB had tried this.


4 posted on 05/13/2011 2:09:13 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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This crap NEEEDS to stop. This is not what a representative form of government is supposed to do.


5 posted on 05/13/2011 2:09:34 PM PDT by johniegrad
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The indoctrination might work - as long as students are restricted to using only “liberal math”.

Liberal math = little understanding of any digit beyond 10 coupled with absolutely no understanding of any math function...such as +, -.


6 posted on 05/13/2011 2:18:45 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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I bet you will get kicked out of college if you don’t attend, or if you disagree with the propagandist teaching the class.


8 posted on 05/13/2011 2:19:35 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: jeffq73
Good ol' Joe gives this two thumbs up!!!


9 posted on 05/13/2011 2:19:38 PM PDT by NWFLConservative (Game On.......Fight Like a Girl!!...............Saracuda in 2012)
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Actually, I think college students stand to lose alot with Obamacare. Sure, O’s plan lets them stick to Mommy and Daddy’s plan until they are 25....but then the hammer falls. Most single 26 y/0 don’t have healthcare. Many are in entry level jobs that don’t offer it, and this demographic would rather spend their paycheck on a cell phone than a health plan.

Well guess what? Obama will make them buy a plan. I can hear the howls now...and I look forward to seeing how this gets pegged on the GOP somehow.


10 posted on 05/13/2011 2:20:14 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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bump


11 posted on 05/13/2011 2:25:07 PM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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Liberal elites run the colleges - there hasn’t been diveristy of thought in decades. They’ll push whatever liberals in Washington want pushed...


12 posted on 05/13/2011 2:27:04 PM PDT by GOPJ (Osama bin SEALed - http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2009/05/terrifying-brilliance-of-islam.html)
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Whose right is health care? Do you think it's yours?

Congressman Anthony Weiner has said that health care is not a commodity. If it isn't a commodity then do doctors and nurses have rights? Assigning health care the status of a right makes health care workers slaves to that right who must serve it. On what ground could a health care worker refuse to provide their products and services since that would violate the patient's "basic human right to health care."

That is a direct loss of individual rights for health care providers. The collective right of the people to receive health care would supersede the provider's individual right to set fees and hours or to change their occupational status or even decide how to apply their skills and knowledge if taken to its logical extreme. A collective right, by practical definition, is a state right because it is a right that is created and given by the government to those it chooses to give it to. It is not a natural right possessed by each person protected by the Constitution from the government. It is also a collective/state right by virtue of the fact that it would supersede individual rights when the two come into conflict. How else would the government view a right that it created and administers vs. one it has no control over?

Of course it isn't stated in any bill that a patient's right to care supersedes a provider's right to set fees and hours etc, but it doesn't need to. Rights, as always, are adjudicated in the courts. The Health Care Reform bills simply establish the foundation for the courts to rule in favor of the collective right.

Weiner’s view is collectivist, fascist and totalitarian. Collectivist because it has to be described as being a right of the many instead of the one and superior due to that fact. Fascist because ultimately the sole authority for its creation and oversight is from one entity the Federal government. Totalitarian because the Federal government is the enforcer of this collective right as well. State and local jurisdictions will have little say about it.

Congressman Weiner's view is the underlying philosophy of all of the Health Care Reform legislation in the House and Senate. Consider this section in the Senate version of the bill; the setting up of community watch dogs that will monitor citizens for various health parameters. Read pages 382 - 393.

TITLE I—QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS pps 382 - 393

So, even citizens themselves will be subject to Federal regulations on their behavior in order to fulfill the "human right" of universal health care. It isn't the individual's liberty that is being protected by that it is the government's control over its own health care system that is being guarded. How much clearer can it be that these bills abrogate the concept of individual rights? Someone will be checking your lifestyle, according to gov regulations, to be certain you serve the best interests of the "basic human right to health care" ie. "the Public Option."

HCR is not just about rationing care and wealth redistribution. It's about the end of individual rights as the corrosive effects of the new collectivist "basic human right to health care" spreads throughout the legal and political systems like a virus.

I think that the main purpose of Health Care Reform (HCR) is as a direct assault on individual liberties.

Health Care is a Liberty Issue
Conservative Underground - 18 August 2009 - Tim Dunkin

Another Stupid Argument: Heath Care is a Right

Involuntary Medical Servitude

Obama's Authoritarian, Unconstitutional Health Care Proposal

Defining A Right In America

To Americans Who Believe Healthcare is a Right

OBAMA: HEALTH CARE DESTROYING FREE SPEECH

Mandated health insurance threatens freedom, privacy

Bad Laws and Unintended Consequences, part 1.

Obamacare Rips Doctor-Patient Relationship Apart

Second Bill of Rights aka FDR's economic bill of rights
(An early attempt to embed collective rights into American politics and society.)


13 posted on 05/13/2011 2:33:29 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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Hey Stenny..when these kids are in their fifties and older and they are waiting around for weeks, or months for basic medical services (and hoping they don’t die during that wait) that your generation had at the tip of their hands, do you think they will think socialized medicine was a great idea???


14 posted on 05/13/2011 2:51:39 PM PDT by BerniesFriend (Sarah Palin-"Lord knows she's attractive" says bitter Andrea Mitchell and the rest of the MSM)
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The communists party (formally the Democratic Party) will never quit trying to turn what is left of the Country into a dictatorship controlled by communists. Don’t take this lightly.


15 posted on 05/13/2011 2:54:00 PM PDT by Logical me
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Launch your shovel-ready career in recyclables with
obamacare gardens. New franchises available soon!


22 posted on 05/13/2011 7:12:00 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: jeffq73; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

Yeah, students, learn about how you can live on Mommy’s health insurance while scarfing Doritos in her basement. Ain’t dependency grand???

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


23 posted on 05/13/2011 10:13:03 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I hate politically correct sorosmonkey superheroes!)
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