This birther stuff reminds me how much I miss W. F. Buckley.
Again, guys: The evidence that what the White House posted is a certified copy of Obama’s original Certificate of Live Birth is that Hawaii’s Department of Health says so: http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html
Look at that URL. It’s to hawaii.gov. That’s the government of the state of Hawaii. They issue the authentic Hawaiian birth certificates, and they vouch for Obama’s. Maybe White House staff did touch up the document — I don’t know — but if the issuing authority says it’s real, as they do, then we’re left arguing over nonsense.
I am confident that paper money from the U.S. Bureau of Printing and Engraving is not counterfeit. That’s not based on forensic examination; it just has to be, by definition. I know my driver’s license is legit because I got it from the California Department of Motor Vehicles. Forgery is a problem, but no one worries about people forging their own signatures; it’s impossible by definition. Sounds silly, but the issue in this thread is that level of nonsense.
The Hawaii Department of Health says: “On April 27, 2011 President Barack Obama posted a certified copy of his original Certificate of Live Birth.” Game over. Move on.
I sure miss W. F. Buckley.
“ssuing authority says it’s real, as they do, then we’re left arguing over nonsense.”
Nonsense. Clearly the Kenyan lizard king has constructed a conspiracy involving a handful of people.
Buckley believed in communist conspiracies. The sunbathing Kenyan lizard king is a Manchurian Candidate.
Weak minded people will submit to the Kenyan. We birthers will persist.
That is a brilliant post. But, I do find a singular fault. Hawaii is run by communists in the same mold as Stalin. I would not trust either Stalin or Abercrombie. Both are lower than cesspool scum.
Remember, the veracity of a document is only as good as the man presenting it.
As you can see, the US dollar is going down the shitter, as it is now printed by a communist government. Just like the BC. Garbage.
Maybe you’ve hit the nail on the head.
The copy from Hawaii was allegedly flown in to the White House by his attorney. He then waved it in the air.
BUT BUT what is posted on the govt website is a PDF file and there is evidence that it has been altered, INCLUDING THE HAWAII CERTFIFIERS STAMP.
In addition, there is no seal.
SO, DID YOU THINK THAT PERHAPS WHAT HAWAII RELEASED AND WHAT WAS POSTED ARE TWO DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS?
The other explanation, is you have an inside job here. They would have needed hundreds of real birth certificates to forge the one they presented.
I think they starte with as many as they could find with the deceased doctor’s name. Or perhaps they actually started with the real BC, but altered it.
Unless you’ve looked at the YouTube evidence, you’ll remain in the dark. Please look at the videos.
“For instance, the state of Hawaii’s former Health Department chief Chiyome Fukino is the one official who, back when Obama’s long-form birth certificate was guarded more securely than the nation’s nuclear launch codes, supposedly examined the mysterious document and reported back to the state’s governor, and to the nation, that the president did indeed have a birth certificate and she had seen it!
But just two weeks before Obama finally released his “birth certificate,” Fukino was interviewed by NBC News’ national investigative correspondent Michael Isikoff, who reported that Fukino told him she had seen the original birth certificate and that it was “half typed and half handwritten.”
Problem: The document released with great pomp and ceremony by the White House was entirely typed. Only the signatures and two dates at the very bottom were “handwritten.” What Fukino described was clearly a different document. But don’t yell at WND for that “paranoid birther” story – you can thank NBC for that one.”
Read more: Startling new questions about ‘birth certificate’ http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=296957#ixzz1M8p1Yuf5
Lying to protect Hawaii’s systematic granting of US citizenship to people born outside the confines of the US. The “conspiracy” goes far beyond the one called Obama. This only puts it into the spotlight...
Hawaii officials also stated Obama is a natural born citizen but Brian Schatz, himself the Chair of the DPH in 2008, couldn’t attest to Obama meeting the eligibility requirements to get on the state ballot. And so the machinations with SanFranNan...
http://www.youtube.com/embed/R6LVic3c7JA?rel=0
NO~!
Hawaii says that this is an ABSTRACT and it can be used in Hawaii as a valid BC.
They ‘proclaim’ it to be true. Dictatorships do this.
I dont believe them for a minute, and they obviously have NO 50 YEAR OLD BIRTH CERTIFICATE THEY CAN COPY to prove it
If they did, they would have slid it onto the copy machine and made a few copies for everyone.
THEY (someone) MANUFACTURED THIS DOCUMENT and then swore that the facts are correct
That is very different than a copy of a document (50 years old)
They could manufacture anything, and then swear to it- with enough pressure (and maybe some ‘waivers’)
And The Donald had already had investigators prove that she was not at that hospital, and the birth announcement DID NOT come from either hospital.
and what were these ‘waivers’ Obama had to send a team of lawyers to sign????
I dont need no stinkin’ waivers to get my BC.